tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post5835349480688342934..comments2024-03-26T11:22:41.940-07:00Comments on Genea-Musings: It's Really Not That Easy!Randy Seaverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17477703429102065294noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-78997315555323162582015-11-26T13:14:01.186-08:002015-11-26T13:14:01.186-08:00I disagree, I think it really is that easy. IF, an...I disagree, I think it really is that easy. IF, and it is a big if, one's ancestors were in the English colonies prior to 1650 and IF one already has the data on them at least going back to the Revolutionary War (DAR helps here). <br /><br />If all your people came through Ellis Island or were refugees from famished Ireland, forget it. Your ancestors were likely peasants of unknown lineage, and so many poor women were prostitutes even while married, one would need to confirm documents with DNA (there are some royals with questions too).<br /><br />The key is to trace each branch back to a 1600's immigrant and to know something about surname origins, names of history, and names of towns and counties. When I found a derivative of a Norman surname, the line just opened up, because the noble families are well referenced, and sure enough, there was William I. A surname that places are named after is also a clue. Talbot is one of several in my case, and that name is all over Maryland; as I am descended from George Calvert, First Lord Baltimore. It seems like a lot of non-first born sons of nobles came to the colonies, but that is just my impression.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11218837695243575538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-29058307924583389602013-09-15T14:44:05.457-07:002013-09-15T14:44:05.457-07:00I have the same issue with "This Old House&qu...I have the same issue with "This Old House"Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15443708461680542898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-75551547535677639042013-09-09T06:45:00.668-07:002013-09-09T06:45:00.668-07:00I do enjoy the show because sometimes I pick up id...I do enjoy the show because sometimes I pick up ideas for where to look when I get stuck in my research. One thing I thought I picked up watching the Cindy Crawford episode has confused me. She is confirmed as a descendent from Thomas Trowbridge but it looks to me like he married into the line that descended from Charmlemagne. Am I wrong or is there not a blood connection there? I just rewatched the scene where all is revealed and I am thinking I must have misunderstood. I thought the line she descends from was already in America and Thomas left after their births.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-59073513804972301422013-09-06T06:51:49.598-07:002013-09-06T06:51:49.598-07:00The origin of Thomas Trowbridge of Dorchester &...The origin of Thomas Trowbridge of Dorchester & New Haven, as being from Taunton, Somerset, England is very clear. The Trowbridge Genealogy, shown in the episode, cites many original documents verbatim in the text, including on pages 46-47, portions of New Haven Land Records, volume 1, page 202 which state - <br /><br />“… I Thomas Trowbridge of Taunton in ye County of Somerset, Gen. doe hereby make ordaine, constitute and depute and in my place and stead put my three sons Thomas Trowbridge and William Trowbridge of Newhaven and James Trowbridge of Dorchester in ye Bay in New England in ye ports of America beyond ye seas …"<br /><br />You can see the Trowbridge genealogy in its entirety at http://books.google.com/books?id=VWEbAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Thomas+Trowbridge+Genealogy&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5tEpUrvBB9e44APs_4DgDQ&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false <br /><br />Other articles that detail the Trowbridge ancestry in England in considerable detail with documentation in include "The Trowbridge Ancestry in England," prepared for Francis Bacon Trowbridge [author of the above Trowbridge genealogy] by Donald Lines Jacobus, published in The American Genealogist, 71(1942):129-37; and Charles Fitch-Northen, "The Trowbridge Ancestry," The Genealogist, 9(1988):3-39.Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-81673471047375038592013-08-30T20:07:41.061-07:002013-08-30T20:07:41.061-07:00As always, well said Randy. I had some of the same...As always, well said Randy. I had some of the same feeling while watching it. I really prefer the episodes when they focus on one ancestor and really try to uncover that ancestors whole story or the ones like this where they try to trace the ancestry back as far as they can go. At least when they focus on one or two people story they show a lot more of what goes into discovering the story.Untangled Family Rootshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07662341843360451072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-28984430838304140942013-08-29T20:16:45.506-07:002013-08-29T20:16:45.506-07:00I think the episode, and your post, brings up a go...I think the episode, and your post, brings up a good discussion point of when is it time to call in a professional genealogist versus continuing to research by myself. While the research and discovery process is very thrilling, what if a professional genealogist was able to uncover something I had not (for whatever reason: not having access to the record online/locally, not being aware of where the record may be found, etc.), and this subsequently allowed me to break through a brick wall and/or get even further back on my line. Since one never knows how much time they have left, I strive to find the right balance between continuing the thrill of the hunt as contrasted with gaining as much knowledge as I can about a particular line of ancestors by calling in an expert. Cost of hiring a professional researcher also plays into this equation.<br /><br />While I think it is unlikely to happen, I also wish the show would profile interesting stories about non celebrities. Perhaps ask people who have uncovered interesting stories/connections in their research to submit leads to the show. They could then pick the most interesting of these to actually feature on the show periodically. I'm sure not all of the celebrities they've initially selected have turned out to have ancestors interesting enough to make the show, and I know there are plenty of non celebrities who have ancestors who are equally as compelling, or even more so.Dan Stonehttp://www.danstone.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-48981421816799486012013-08-29T12:28:34.768-07:002013-08-29T12:28:34.768-07:00Since I'm also down from Thomas Trowbridge, I&...Since I'm also down from Thomas Trowbridge, I'd love to know about the research 'proving' the link to Taunton. Sigh. Is anyone posting that lovely research analysis/proof?? Could we ask nicely?? :) <br />Celia Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04096301290962083820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-46410698423378479802013-08-29T09:47:01.372-07:002013-08-29T09:47:01.372-07:00Randy,
I have a chart like that... and it certainl...Randy,<br />I have a chart like that... and it certainly has a "WOW" factor. I think my chart covered 22 generations and I added an ellipsis to Charlemagne. Cost was $39 from Wholly Genes. If you have The Master Genealogist, just create the chart as a .vcf (very simple), then choose the Report option "Chart Printing Service." You can use as many colors as you like and customize it however much or little you choose. Love it! I give away family-specific versions as gifts. They really make a hit.Faxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14160490778082617475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-6182858660702303392013-08-29T07:29:26.767-07:002013-08-29T07:29:26.767-07:00Hmm it looks like your blog ate my first comment (...Hmm it looks like your blog ate my first comment (it was extremely long) so I guess I'll just sum it up what I wrote and say, I'm <br />thoroughly enjoying your blog. I too am an aspiring blog writer but <br />I'm still new to everything. Do you have any suggestions for novice blog writers? I'd certainly appreciate it.<br /><br /><br />my webpage; schody strychowe (<a href="http://ultramocny.pl/schody-strychowe-2/" rel="nofollow">ultramocny.pl</a>)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-1513254660952408172013-08-29T05:25:10.496-07:002013-08-29T05:25:10.496-07:00Isn't everyone related to Charlemagne?! That i...Isn't everyone related to Charlemagne?! That is a subject I find most annoying about public family trees. So many historians eventually find their way back to this particular monarch. If there is a familiar name in someone's pedigree it can be added in, linked to royalty and away we go! My other problem with Cindy's ancestors was that there was no confirmed link between the missing Thomas Trowbridge in Connecticut to the one who appeared back in Taunton, Somerset. Did someone find a passenger list for the 1600s on which he appeared on his way back to England? Unlikely!Discover Genealogyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10751791688359495496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-56726979904502620152013-08-28T21:28:31.992-07:002013-08-28T21:28:31.992-07:00Your point is exactly why I wanted to share that &...Your point is exactly why I wanted to share that "it took 1000 hours of research" information with all my Facebook followers - that include my blog readers - who need to 'get this point!"<br />We know, it is important for them too, which I think is the point of social media. Everyone won't read it - or pay attention - or care. But with your post, my share, etc. etc. the word does get out... even sometimes to the people we hope get it! ;-)Dr. Bill (William L.) Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04857619677138020430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-24854634431030041492013-08-28T18:43:02.265-07:002013-08-28T18:43:02.265-07:00Great post, Randy - it would be nice if the show d...Great post, Randy - it would be nice if the show did a special or behind the scenes snippets emphasizing all the work put in by the professionals before the celebrities get to each location - my cousin and I joke that we'd like to show up at some genealogy research repository and just be handed our scroll of our family tree without having to put in any of the work ourselves!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16234091189020223166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-9982291460217953492013-08-28T17:28:58.912-07:002013-08-28T17:28:58.912-07:00Randy,
That has always been my beef about the prog...Randy,<br />That has always been my beef about the program. I've never had someone go find the document and bring it to me. I'm not sure I would really want to. They have missed out on the moment of discovery. I suspect that someone like Cindy Crawford will probably explore a bit more. She is intelligent. From what I saw on the Twitter account - she took her sisters and mother with her and they explored a lot of the places and such...but you don't see that on the program. You can take years of research and boil it down to a simple statement - but only someone who has done the work recognizes what goes on in the background. I have enjoyed the search sometimes more than the results.CarmenMJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12928765351501514151noreply@blogger.com