tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post6447738694085930550..comments2024-03-26T11:22:41.940-07:00Comments on Genea-Musings: Which Site Provides "Best" Census Source Citations?Randy Seaverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17477703429102065294noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-81107358169843338622012-06-22T14:31:45.408-07:002012-06-22T14:31:45.408-07:00Kenneth,
Elizabeth Shown Mills would have to answ...Kenneth,<br /><br />Elizabeth Shown Mills would have to answer that question, I won't even try. What I can offer, is how I used that specific information in locating about 90 people, in the 1940 Census (unindexed) within the 1st week.<br /><br />I had record that information in the Citation as suggested. By looking at the complete details, like Household Number and Dwelling Number, I could better identify the ED in the 1940 Census, using the One Step website created by Dr. Morse. But, where I had the information from the 1930 Census, it sometimes had the Street Name and number. That really helped to narrow down to one ED, in most cases in the 1940 Census. All I had to do, was to look at my 1930 Citation, detailed, and I was able to get to that one ED.<br /><br />Remember that ED's changed and will change between Census Years, so the ED, by itself, may not always worked. Most of my ED changed between 1930 and 1940, that additional information really helps.<br /><br />Hope that gives you some input to your question.<br /><br />RussCousin Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326890362591254874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-22101320923497784502012-06-22T14:06:27.749-07:002012-06-22T14:06:27.749-07:00Using the Evidence Explained template, can someone...Using the Evidence Explained template, can someone please explain to me why the dwelling and household number is necessary? Obviously with the city, county, and state and the ED and Page#, the proper page is found and can be found in the future. I always add the head of household name and ALL members of the household for completeness.<br /><br />And why if accessed online is it required to cite where you accessed it from as well as the date? Having the microfilm info seems to be redundant. I must be missing something I guess.Kenneth R Markshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04400304978312375414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-70230828057985004072012-06-19T19:21:12.265-07:002012-06-19T19:21:12.265-07:00I think like a lot of people, citing sources is mo...I think like a lot of people, citing sources is more important to me now than it was when I first started working on my family tree. I'm trying to shore up my "primary 32" and then I'll move to fixing the rest, although as I've added information, regardless of who it is, I've made certain to add citations. <br /><br />As for those shaky leaves in ancestry.com that point to other trees that are often missing citations, I often send a message to the tree's owner asking where they got their information. If I can't get a satisfactory reply, I sometimes insert the information as an alternate fact with a note to myself as to its nature and origin. I do that because sometimes even unsourced facts may be based on truth, and the information can give me a lead for tracking down an actual source. <br /><br />For example, in researching my grandfather, who died four months before I was born, I came across a distant cousin's tree who had a very specific birthplace for my grandfather--city, county and state. I've never been able to find anything more than the state he was born in (in census data) because he was born in 1908 before birth certificates were standard practice. So, I contacted this cousin, and he didn't know where he got the information, but pointed me to someone who helped him with his tree. I contacted that person, and she didn't know, but pointed me to someone else. I contacted him, and he pointed me back to the previous person. Now this information about my grandfather came from somewhere. It's just that right now no one seems to know where. So, I have this as alternate data, but I only include as primary data something for which I can have a source--such as the census records. <br /><br />I often compose my own sources for information I've provided such as birth or death certificates. I don't have a copy of <i>Evidence Explained</i> because it is (1) so stinking expensive, and (2) not available in an electronic medium for which I could easily carry it with me on my iPad. I'll probably eventually buy it and scan it. <br /><br />However, I do understand the purpose and basic elements needed in a good citation since I work in academic settings. I am in school where Turabian is used and I teach where APA is used, and I constantly have to keep the two methods straight in my head. I probably think in terms of Turabian more than APA when I craft a source, but I know the essential elements necessary to go in the citation. It needs to have enough information so that someone else could find the same source. So while they may not conform to <i>Evidence Explained</i>, I do believe they are complete, which--to me--is the most important part.R. Mansfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12333586197235312918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-21808547530522821992012-06-19T11:36:18.480-07:002012-06-19T11:36:18.480-07:00I am glad you discussed this. I always wondered wh...I am glad you discussed this. I always wondered why these source citations weren't what my standards should be.Root Diggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06078852616599847109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-42566823511965808022012-06-19T11:29:56.883-07:002012-06-19T11:29:56.883-07:00Randy,
"none of the above", with the ex...Randy,<br /><br />"none of the above", with the exception of Elizabeth Shown Mills example.<br /><br />That is why I have spent my time converting ANY Citation from anywhere into the Family Tree Maker Template Format.<br /><br />What might be interesting is comparing FTM2012, against RootsMagic and Legacy. I would hope that they would be much closer then those provided by your Online Examples.<br /><br />Thanks for bringing this issue up.<br /><br />RussCousin Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00326890362591254874noreply@blogger.com