tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post8778799425126479474..comments2024-03-26T11:22:41.940-07:00Comments on Genea-Musings: Evidence of Sarah Martin's Maiden Name in the Putman FilesRandy Seaverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17477703429102065294noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-90337886500555855592008-11-17T12:14:00.000-08:002008-11-17T12:14:00.000-08:00At the current time, I think from the naming of th...At the current time, I think from the naming of the children of Johannes Pootman that Johannes' father was a "Victor Pootman". His mother may have been "Mary Corneliuse". There was a Victor Pootman who was a teacher, perhaps dominee, in Aalburg, North Brabant, Holland, in 1645 at the same time Johannes Pootman was born. I think it should be noted that the name Rutger was never used by the descendants of Johannes Pootman [1645-1690], which would seem to precluded Rutger Putman as the father of Johannes Pootman. The last name Putman was not used until the time of the American Revolution. The early names Putman and Pootman, it seems, have entirely different meanings.<BR/><BR/>Mark R. PutnamMark R. Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07237387384940134908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26204193.post-59427778400968305142008-10-17T17:51:00.000-07:002008-10-17T17:51:00.000-07:00> Rutger Putman might have been Jan/Johannes/ f...> Rutger Putman might have been Jan/Johannes/ father, but there is no record.<BR/><BR/>I haven't researched it, so I hardly have an opinion on the competing theories.<BR/>I do think you should figure out where the claim of Leiden birth orginates, to review whether that source might actually read "Delden" instead of "Leiden".<BR/>Also, the 17-century portret of Rutger and his wife could show a family resemblance - or not. Try tracking it down. Perhaps museums in Essen know about it.<BR/><BR/>Rutger does fit the descrxiption on the American Putman site: "Johannes Pootman's father was according to tradition a dominee, or minister, of a church in Netherlands" perfectly.<BR/>That same site says " Johannes Potman was born, reportedly in Leyden, South Holland, about 1645.", but does not seem to mention the source.<BR/>Perhaps it is the "De Witt Putman, an 1800's history of the family" he mentions elsewhere on the site.<BR/><BR/>The Putman tree created in 1921 makes it relatively easy to find descendants of Rutger for a DNA comparison.<BR/>I could not make much sense of the reference in that Putman family tree to earlier research, because it did not seem to refer to the same magazine.<BR/>It is a reference to the magazine "Bijdragen tot de Geschiedenis van Overijssel", volume XIII, page 291. <BR/>I have not seen the article, but suspect that it gets it information from a book J. Doorninck published in Deventer in 1871: "Geslachtkundige aanteekeningen ten aanzien van de gecommitteerden ten landdage van Overijssel sedert 1610-1794, met eenige berichten omtrent de voormalige havezathen in dat gewest." by J. van Doorninck, published in Deventer, 1871.". The Dutch title essentially says that this is genealogical extract based on official papers from the period.<BR/>A search in the catalogue of the Central Bureau of Genealogy does bring up this book as a result for a search on "Putman".<BR/>Google Books has the book in their index, but does not have scans.<BR/><BR/>- TamuraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com