Saturday, March 21, 2009

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun - Your Paternal Grandmother's Patrilineal Line

It's Saturday Night, so it's time for some genealogy fun. Since I've been searching for my Y-DNA matches (and haven't found any yet), I thought that some of you might be interested in tracing another Y-DNA line - that of your paternal grandmother.

The challenge is this:

Provide a list of your paternal grandmother's patrilineal line. Answer these questions:

* What was your father's mother's maiden name?

* What was your father's mother's father's name?

* What is your father's mother's father's patrilineal line? That is, his father's father's father's ... back to the most distant male ancestor in that line?

* Can you identify male sibling(s) of your father's mother, and any living male descendants from those male sibling(s)? If so, you have a candidate to do a Y-DNA test on that patrilineal line. If not, you may have to find male siblings, and their descendants, of the next generation back, or even further.

Here is mine (as an example):

* My father's mother was Alma Bessie Richmond (1882-1962), born in Killingly, CT.

* My father's mother's father's name was Thomas Richmond (1848-1917), born in Hilperton, Wiltshire, England.

* His father was James Richman (1821-1912), born in Hilperton, Wiltshire, England.

* His father was John Richman (ca 1788-1867), born in Hilperton, Wiltshire, England.

* Alma Bessie Richmond had three brothers -
** Everett Richmond (1875-1917), who has no identifiable living male descendants
** Charles Richmond (1880-1910), who had one son William Richmond (1907-1999), who had no children.
** Edwin Richmond (1883-1935), who had no sons.
** James Richmond (1885-1913), who had no sons.

So I need to go back one more generation, and find brothers of Thomas Richmond. From the three brothers of Thomas, I have information on at least three living male descendants in the patrilineal line. Therefore, I can request one or more of them be tested for their Y-DNA markers. But then, maybe they already have been and haven't told me! I'm going to go to and input Richman and Wiltshire and see what I can find.


  1. Yay! This is the first time I've been able to do Saturday Night Fun ... on Saturday night!


  3. Thank you - more fun than 4 kids in a bathtub! I appreciate how clearly you explained this!

  4. A very though provoking challenge. I'd never thought to do dna for this exact line. (my post)

  5. Thanks for the fun. It got me thinking of this line again.

  6. It sounds like that Randy has my challenge of no recent male candidates. It's amazing that this one line of mine could have six sons and each of them due to different reasons left no descendents! Oh the woes! See my post at

  7. Randy, I posted my attempt. No living
    male relatives that I know of as yet and there is the problem that my
    grandmother's parents were first cousins!

  8. * My father's mother was Anna Marie Dillingham born June 11, 1872 Lyle Minnesota.

    * My father's mother's father's name was Stanislaus Potoski Dillingham born August 8, 1835 Oxford Maine.

    * Then there is 10 more generations of Dillinghams to William Dillingham b abt 1548 in Deane, Bedfordshire, England

    Anna had one sister Fredaline Dillingham who never married and no brothers.

  9. I have no plans to do DNA tests for this line, but my post is up here.

  10. OK Seaver, I made it in time to play this week.

  11. Thanks Randy! I found 7 male generations and 2 candidates for Y-DNA testing. See my post.

  12. This was a very productive challenge for me this week. I finally have my paternal tree back on my computer. Now the question is - will I or won't I finally contact my distant Kelly cousins? My post is here.

  13. This is my first time, and maybe next week I'll actually participate on Saturday!

    Saturday Night Genie Fun

  14. I was finally able to participate, but had to take my Dad to the hospital last night so I didn't get to post a link. Here's my post:

  15. Better late then never.

    Now I have work to do on this line.

    Thank you.

  16. My first Saturday Night Genealogy Fun ~ better late than never. Thanks, Randy, I learned a lot and discovered I need to do more research. My post is at Genealogy Traces.