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Wednesday, February 9, 2011

FTM 2011 Citations Uploaded via GEDCOM to Ancestry.com

In my post FTM 2011 Citations Uploaded to Ancestry.com yesterday, I uploaded a Family Tree Maker 2011 database directly into an Ancestry.com Member Tree using the "Share" button in FTM 2011. 

I wanted to see if a GEDCOM file created by Family Tree Maker 2011 and uploaded to an Ancestry.com Member Tree has any problems with the Source citations - those created by both Template sources and Free-form sources.

I used the same database with both Free-form and template sources for the same Facts, exported a GEDCOM 5.5 file to my computer files, then imported the GEDCOM file to Ancestry.com.

The resulting Person page for Isaac Seaver looks like this:


It looks like the same screen in yesterday's post, except the Media Items did not transfer (as expected) using the GEDCOM transfer.

Here's the "Template Source" screen for the Birth Fact:


The Source information shown is:

* Title:  Systematic History Fund, Vital Records of Westminster, Massachusetts, to the End of the Year 1849 [template]
*  Author: [empty]
*  Publisher: [empty]
*  Publisher Location: [empty]
*  Publisher Date: [empty]
*  Call Number: [empty]
*  Notes:  Systematic History Fund. Vital Records of Westminster, Massachusetts, to the End of the Year 1849. Worcester, Mass.: F.P. Rice, 1908.

That is exactly what was transferred in yesterday's test.

The source citation itself, in the "Notes" field, if a "Footnote" citation, needs parentheses around the Publication data, according to the Evidence! Explained "Basic Book" models.  The citation is fine as a "Bibliography" entry per EE models.

The "Free-form Source" for the Birth Fact is:


The Source information shown is:

* Title:  Systematic History Fund, Vital Records of Westminster, Massachusetts, to the End of the Year 1849
*  Author: Systematic History Fund
*  Publisher: Name: Name: Worcester, Mass., F.P. Rice, 1908;;
*  Publisher Location: [empty]
*  Publisher Date: [empty]
*  Call Number: [empty]
*  Notes:  Systematic History Fund. Vital Records of Westminster, Massachusetts, to the End of the Year 1849. Worcester, Mass.: F.P. Rice, 1908.

This information is identical to the Free-form source information from the previous post yesterday.

Note that it has exactly the same "mangled" data - the "Name: Name" words in the Publisher field, and the ";;" at the end of the Publisher field.  The source citation itself, in the "Notes" field, needs parentheses around the Publication data, according to the Evidence! Explained models for a "Basic Book" Footnote..

The list of all of the source citations in the Ancestry.com Member Tree file looks like this:


Note that this list shows only the "Title" of the Source (which is the "Title" in the Family Tree Maker 2011 Source List - which has no capability for a shorthand source as discussed here). and the Source Detail. 

It appears that there is no difference in the Source Citations imported and displayed in an Ancestry Member Tree between uploading a Family Tree Maker 2011 file directly or importing the file using a GEDCOM file.  Neither perfectly matches Evidence! Explained models.

Now what about a RootsMagic 4 GEDCOM export and import to an Ancestry Member Tree?  The Seaver Source Citation Saga continues... endless, isn't it?  There is a reason!

1 comment:

  1. Have you figured out a quick way to convert these mangled sources back to their original format? I have over 20,000 names, and whenever in the past I have had to use a back-up or a GEDCOM because of some problem, all the source data gets put in the publisher field, the field names keep replicating, and the call number is lost.

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