Saturday, May 3, 2014

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun - How Many Cousins Do You Know You Have?

It's Saturday Night - 
time for more Genealogy Fun! 

Your mission, should you decide to accept it (cue the Mission Impossible! music) is to:

1)  Take both sets of your grandparents and figure out how many first cousins you have, and how many first cousins removed (a child or grandchild of a first cousin) you have.

2)  Extra Credit:  Take all four sets of your great-grandparents and figure out how many second cousins you have, and how many second cousins removed you have.

HINT:  Make a Descendants Chart with your genealogy software program!

3)  Tell us the grandparents and great-grandparents names, but don't give the name of living cousins unless you want to.  

4)  Are there any of those lines that you don't know all of the cousins names?  Do you care?  
5)  Tell us about them in your own blog post, in a comment to this blog post, or in a Facebook or Google+ post of your own.  Be sure to drop a comment to this post to link to your work.  

Here's mine:

1a)  Lyle Lawrence and Emily Kemp (Auble) Carringer had only one child, my mother, so I have no cousins in this line.

1b)  Frederick Walton and Alma Bessie (Richmond) Seaver had seven children, but only five had children (one died as a child, one married and had no children).  The offspring:

*  Marion had one daughter.  She has no children.

*  Evelyn had one daughter and two sons (3 first cousins).  The daughter had 5 children (first cousins once removed), and the 5 children had 11 children (first cousins twice removed, and those 11  have 5 children (first cousins 3 times removed)); one son had three children (first cousins once removed), and they have 7 children (first cousins twice removed); the second son had 3 children (first cousins once removed) and they have 6 children (first cousins twice removed).

*  Ruth had 2 daughters (first cousins).  One daughter has no children.  One daughter had 2 daughters (first cousins once removed), and those two daughters have 5 children (first cousins twice removed).

*  Ed had a son and a daughter (first cousins).  The daughter has no children.  The son had two children (first cousins once removed), but they have no children.

The count for the grandparents is (to date!):

*  First cousins:  8
*  First cousins once removed:  18
*  First cousins twice removed:  22
*  First cousins three times removed:  5

2a)  Great-grandparents Henry Austin and Della (Smith) Carringer:  They had two children - my grandfather and a baby who died as an infant.  No additional cousins here.

2b)  Great-grandparents Charles and Georgianna (Kermp) Auble:  They had one child - my grandmother.  No additional cousins here.  My mother had no first cousins!

2c)  Great-grandparents Frank Walton and Hattie (Hildreth) Seaver:  They had three children - my grandfather, one son died as a boy, the third married but had no children.  No additional cousins 

2d)  Great-grandparents Thomas and Julia (White) Richmond had 9 children, and 8 of them married and had children.  

*  Anne had 13 children (first cousin once removed), who had 2 children (second cousins), who had at least 2 children (second cousins once removed).

*  Henry had 2 children (first cousins once removed), who had 2 children (second cousins).  I've lost track of this family line.

*  Everett had 3 children (first cousins once removed).  I've lost track of this family line.

*  Grace had 1 son (first cousin once removed), who had 2 children (second cousins), who had 8 children (second cousins once removed) who had at least 2 children (second cousins twice removed).

*  Emily had 1 child (first cousin once removed) who had one child (second cousin), who had no children.

*  Charles had 1 child (first cousin once removed) who had no children.

*  Edwin had 1 child (first cousin once removed), who had 1 child (second cousin), who had 3 children (second cousins once removed).

*  James had one child (first cousin once removed), and I have lost track of her.

The count for the great-grandparents is (known to date!):

*  First cousins once removed:  13

*  Second cousins: 8
*  Second cousins once removed:  13
*  Second cousins twice removed:  2

4)  I think I know all of the first cousins offspring, although I should double check with my cousins again.

I know that I've lost track of several of the Richmond lines because of marriage.  

The total is 89 known first or second cousins N times removed, and the total is probably higher.  

They can all be put on the Richmond Descendants Chart:

This really points out to me that we usually know the names of our first cousins, but often lose track of the second cousins.

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Surname Saturday -- MORGAN (Wales > New Amsterdam > New Jersey)

It's Surname Saturday, and I'm "counting down" my Ancestral Name List each week.  

I am in the 7th great-grandmothers and I'm up to #955, but I don't know who she is, nor #957, so we're up to Ancestor #959, who is Mary MORGAN (1672-????)
.   [Note: the earlier great-grandmothers and 7th great-grandfathers have been covered in earlier posts].

My ancestral line back through three generations in this MORGAN family line is:

1.  Randall J. Seaver (1943-living)

2. Frederick Walton Seaver (1911-1983)
3. Betty Virginia Carringer (1919-2002)

6.  Lyle Lawrence Carringer (1891-1976)
7.  Emily Kemp Auble (1899-1977)

14.  Charles Auble (1849-1916)
15.  Georgianna Kemp (1868-1952)

28.  David Auble (1817-1894)
29.  Sarah Knapp (1818-????)

58.  William Knapp (1775-1856)
59.  Sarah Cutter (1785-1878)

118. Stephen Cutter (1745-1823)
119. Tabitha Randolph (1752-1845)

238.  Samuel Fitz Randolph (1730-????)
239.  Martha Gach (1729-????)

478.  Thomas Gach (1702-1770)
479.  Elizabeth Bloodgood (1703-????)

958.  Jan Bloetgoet, born Bef. 04 August 1672 in New York, New York, United States; died before 18 May 1716 in Flushing, Queens, New York, United States.  He was the son of 1916. Frans Janszen Bloetgoet and 1917. Lysbeth Jans.  He married before 1694 in New York, United States.
959.  Mary Morgan, born about 1672 in Flushing, Queens, New York, United States; died after 24 August 1730 in Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.  

Children of Jan Bloetgoet and Mary Morgan are:
*  Francis bloodgood (1694-1766), married 1717 Judith.
*  John Bloodgood (1696-1756), married 1728 Sarah Brinckerhoff (1709-1760).
*  William Bloodgood (1698-1756), married 1726 Mary Gach (1700-1760).
*  Jeffrey Bloodgood (1700-????)
*  Elizabeth Bloodgood (1703-????), married 1721 Thomas Gach (1702-1770).
*  Deborah Bloodgood (1705-????), married 1735 Byerly Ashford (1705-????)

1918.  Charles Morgan, born about 1649 in Gravesend, Kings, New York, United States; died about 1720 in Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.  He married about 1672 in Queens, New York, United States.
1919.  Elizabeth

Children of Charles Morgan and Elizabeth are:
*  Mary Morgan (1672-1730), married (1) 1694 Jan Bloetgoet (1672-1716); (2) James Savage.
*  Joseph Morgan (1674-1740), married 1676 Sarah Van sicklen (1676-????).

3836.  Charles Morgan, born about 1625 in Newport, Wales; died 1668 in Flushing, Queens, New York, United States.  He married  09 February 1648 in New Amsterdam, Dutch Colony.
3837.  Helena Applegate, born about 1628 in Wales.

Children of Charles Morgan and Helena Applegate are:
*  Charles Morgan (1649-1720), married 1672 Elizabeth.
*  Thomas Morgan (1650-????), married 1672 Margrietje Gerritsen (1654-????).
*  John Morgan (1652-????)
*  Daniel Morgan (1654-????)

There are several derivative sources with information about these Morgan families:

*  Robert Gordon Clarke,  "Early New Netherland Settlers," website, Rootsweb Freepages (, "Charles <George> Morgan" sketch.

*  Evelyn Beran, "Sanford-Shulsen Family," website, Rootsweb WorldConnect (, "Charles Morgan" sketch (ID 110630).

The Bloodgood/Bloetgoet family is treated well in:

Howard L. Swain, "Frans Bloodgood (Bloedtgoedt) of Flushing, New York," New Netherland Connections, Volume 12, Number 1 (January-March 2007), pages 1-11

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Friday, May 2, 2014

Looking for Cousins in MyHeritage SmartMatches - Post 1: Finding SmartMatches

I must admit that I have been a very bad participant in the MyHeritage family tree website.  I uploaded a large tree several years ago and have found it difficult to update it without replacing it.

Several email messages arrive every day titled "2 New Confirmed Smart Matches on" that say "xxxxx yyyyyyy, a MyHeritage member from USA, just confirmed NN Smart Matches between her family tree and yours, for the following people..." and provides a link to the persons in the other tree that match my tree.

I have so many Smart Matches that I rarely read more than the name of the matching person.  I don't click through to see the match.  So they've piled up - to the extent of about 192,000 of them, and about 6,000 waiting to be confirmed. long will that take?  

I've been thinking about "how do I find close or distant cousins who may have my ancestors in their trees?"  Then I thought - "MyHeritage has a lot of trees, and I get a lot of Smart Matches, I wonder how I can find those cousins?"

I do have an ulterior motive - posts for this topic should provide information for my society colleagues and Genea-Musings readers who have the same questions, and/or are considering creating a MyHeritage tree.

This will probably be a multi-post series, since the task is not simple, although I will try to break it up into manageable pieces.

1)  Starting on my MyHeritage page (after logging into my MyHeritage account), I ran the mouse over the "Family Tree" menu item and saw the dropdown list:

2)  I selected the "Smart Matches" link and clicked on it, and saw that page on my account:

The text with the light green background told me "There are 6,461 Smart Matches™ confirmed by others pending your confirmation."  The text with the light purple background told me "There are 56 Smart Matches™ you confirmed, that are pending confirmation by others."  Below those two areas, the really good news is "Good news, you have 192,272 Smart Matches™. View the matches below to confirm them."  Then it told that those 192,272 matches are in 22,265 matching family trees!

There are two tabs below that text information - one for "By family trees" and one for "By people."   The default appears to be the "By family trees" tab.

The screen above showed me the list of MyHeritage Family Trees with Smart Matches, ranked by the number of matches in each tree.  #1 on the list is the "Popiel Web Site" and I share 760 matches with that site.  

3)  I clicked on the "Popiel Web Site" name, and saw the top of the list of Smart Matches between persons in my tree and persons in the other MyHeritage tree:

I could go through that list of 760 persons that match between the two trees, but after a quick look at them, they seem to mostly be for siblings of my ancestors rather than the ancestors themselves.  In this particular tree, they are all from early New England families.  I'm more interested in finding cousins for my more recent ancestors, like my second or third great-grandparents.

4)  I went to the top of the screen above, and clicked on the "By people" tab and saw:

The screen above provides a list of my 192,272 smart matches, ranked, I think, by number of matches.  It tells me that I have 8,763 people in my tree with a Smart Match.

There are other "sort by" options on the line above the list of people - for "New matches," "First name," "Last name" and "Relationship."

5)  The "Relationship" sorting sounds like exactly what I want - perhaps it will provide a list in some order from closest to farthest ancestor?  Here is the top of the "Relationship" sorting list:

I reviewed that list, and it had me first, my mother second, my brother third, my wife fourth, my father fifth, and so one, down through my family tree using some sort of algorithm to decide relationship closeness.

6)  I clicked on the blue "View matches" link next to my mother's name on the screen above, and saw:

On the screen above, the program provides a summary of the information about my mother in my tree, and a summary of the information in the 9 Smart Matches for my mother in other trees.

7)  Further down the screen above is a list of the "Pending confirmation" matches:

There are tabs for "Confirmed" and "Rejected" matches also.

8)  On the screen above, I can review each Smart Match for my person by clicking on the blue "Review match" button.  The information for the first tree match above is:

The person profile in the other tree may have information that I don't have about my person, or not (in the case above, it does not.  But that's OK).

9)  I have several options for what to do next with the Smart Match - i'll review some of the options in the next post in this series.

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CVGS RootsMagic Workshop on Saturday, 3 May 2014 at Bonita-Sunnyside Library

The next Chula Vista Genealogical Society Saturday Workshop is Saturday, 3 May 2014 from 12 noon until 3 p.m. at Bonita-Sunnyside Library (4375 Bonita Road) in the Community Room.

Randy Seaver will lead the discussion and demonstration of RootsMagic 6, including:

*  Overview of menus, views and Help function

*  Starting a new tree - basic steps to enter/edit names, relationships, events, dates, places, notes, etc.
*  Adding source citations using Evidence Explained source templates
*  Adding media to persons and events
*  FamilySearch Family Tree interface - access and add/edit information to or from the FSFT
*  The WebSearch feature - searching online, and adding more sites to the WebSearch

*  Attendee questions about RootsMagic 6 features and capabilities.

Attendees should bring their laptops with RootsMagic 6 installed.  The latest version of RootsMagic is which was recently updated, and users should have the latest version if possible.  Many features in RootsMagic are the same for earlier versions, but some new features are unique to the latest version.  

If you are going to attend this workshop, and have a specific question, please email it to Randy at

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52 Ancestors Week 18: #25 Rebecca (Spangler) Carringer (1832-1901)

Amy Johnson Crow suggested a weekly blog theme of "52 Ancestors" in her blog post Challenge:  52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks on the No Story Too Small blog.  Here is my ancestor biography for week #18:

Rebecca (Spangler) Carringer (1832-1901) is #25 on my Ahnentafel List, and is my 2nd great-grandmother. She married #24 David Jackson Carringer (1828-1902) in 1851.

I am descended through:

*  their son, #12, Henry Austin Carringer (1853-1946), who married  #13 Abbie Ardell "Della" Smith (1862-1944) in 1887.
*  their son, #6 Lyle Lawrence Carringer (1891-1976), who married #7 Emily Kemp Auble (1899-1977) in 1918.

* their daughter, #3 Betty Virginia Carringer (1919-2002), who married #2 Frederick Walton Seaver (1911-1983) in 1942.
*  their son, #1 Randall J. Seaver (1943-....)

To create this post, I made an Individual Summary report in RootsMagic 6, then saved it into an RTF file.  I then copied and pasted the Person, the Individual Fact List, the Marriages/Children, the General Notes, and the Source Citations into this blog post.  Unfortunately, the source citations superscripts did not survive this process as superscripts, so I put them in brackets in the lists and notes below, and without brackets in the Source Citation list.  I have images of many of these records, but have not included them in this blog post due to the length of the post.  Many of them have been transcribed or shown in Amanuensis Monday and Treasure Chest Thursday posts.


1)  PERSON (with source citations as indicated in brackets):

*  Name:                   Rebecca Spangler [1, 3]
*  Sex:                      Female   
*  Father:                  Daniel Spangler (1781-1851)   
*  Mother:                 Elizabeth King (1796-1863)   
*  Alternate Name:     Rebeccah Spangler [2, 13]
*  Alternate Name:     Rebecca Caringer [4]
*  Alternate Name:     Rebecca Carringer [6 - 10]
*  Alternate Name:     Rebeca Carenngtr [5]
*  Alternate Name:     Rebecca S. Spangler [12]

2)  INDIVIDUAL FACTS (with source citations as indicated in brackets):
*  Birth:                    2 April 1832, Mercer, Pennsylvania, United States [2]
*  Census:                 1 June 1850 (age 18), Sandy Creek, Mercer, Pennsylvania, United States [3]   
*  Census:                 1 June 1860 (age 28), Columbus City, Louisa, Iowa, United States [4]   
*  Census:                 1 June 1870 (age 38), Jackson, Washington, Iowa, United States [5]
*  Census:                 1 June 1880 (age 48) Boulder, Boulder, Colorado, United States [6]   
*  Census:                 1 June 1885 (age 53) Boulder, Boulder, Colorado, United States [7]
*  Census:                 1 June 1900 (age 68), San Diego, San Diego, California, United States [8]
*  Death:                   13 December 1901 (age 69), San Diego, San Diego, California, United States [9 - 10]
*  Burial:                   15 December 1901 (after age 69), La Vista Memorial Park, National City, San Diego, California, United States [11 - 12]
3)  MARRIAGES/CHILDREN (with source citations as indicated in brackets):
*  Spouse 1:               David Jackson "D.J." Carringer (1828-1902)   
*  Marriage Date: 16 October 1851 (age 19), Mercer, Pennsylvania, United States [13]
*  Child 1:                 Harvey Edgar Carringer (1852-1946)   
*  Child 2:                 Henry Austin Carringer (1853-1946)   
*  Child 3:                 Effie Eva Carringer (1858-1874)   
4) NOTES (with source citations as indicated in brackets):    

Rebecca Spangler is listed as the 8th of 10 children of John Daniel and Elizabeth (King) Spangler in the Spangler family history book.[1]  Rebecca's section says:

"8.  Rebecca, wife of Daniel J. Carringer, born April 2, 1833, living Boulder, Col. [in 1896].  Children:  Edward Carringer; Austin Carringer; Effie Carringer; San Diego, Cal."

The birth date of Rebecca Spangler was on the "Births" page of the D.J. and Rebecca (Spangler) Carringer family Bible.[2]  The birth entry says:

Rebeccah Spangler
born April 2 1832
Mercer Co. Pa

The Spangler book provides no sources, and the birth date of Rebecca in the Carringer/Spangler family Bible was written in her own hand.  The census records from 1850 to 1995 are consistent with 1832, but the 1900 U.S. Census record says she was born in April 1833.[9]  Her gravestone says 1832.[12, 13]  I concluded that the 2 April 1832 date is probably the most accurate. 

In the 1850 US census, the Daniel Spangler family resided in Sandy Creek township in Mercer County, Pennsylvania, and was enumerated just after the Henry Carringer family.[3]  The household included:

*  Daniel Spangler, age 68, male, a farmer, real property worth $1500, born PA
*  Elizabeth Spangler, age 54, female, born PA
*  Rebecca Spangler, age 18, female, born PA, attended school
*  Loiza Spangler, age 12, female, born PA, attended school
*  Margaret Spangler, age 11, female, born PA, attended school
*  George Con (?), age 11, male, born PA, attended school
*  Matilda McKight, age 23, female, born VA
*  Elliott McKight, age 28, male, laborer, born PA

In the "Marriages" section of the D.J. and Rebecca (Spangler) Carringer Bible:[13]

Oct. 16 by Rev. McAdams
D.J. Carringer Miss Rebeccah Spangler
Mercer Co. Pa. 1851 AD

In the 1860 US Census, this family resided in Columbus City, Louisa County, Iowa.[4]  The family included:

*  David J. Caringer -- age 31, male, carpenter, $200 in real property, $100 in personal property, born PA
*  Rebecca Caringer -- age 28, female, born PA
*  Harvy E. Caringer -- age 9, male, born PA, attended school
*  Henry A. Caringer -- age 7, male, born PA, attended school
*  Epha E. Caringer -- age 2, female, born PA

In the 1870 US census, this family resided in Jackson township in Washington County, Iowa.[5]  The household, indexed as Carenngtr on, included:

*  D. Carenngtr -- age 40, male, white, farmer, born PA
*  Rebeca Carenngtr -- age 38, female, white, keeps house, born PA
*  Harvy Carenngtr -- age 18, male, white, school, born PA
*  Henry A. Carenngtr -- age 16, male, white, school, born PA
*  Effie Carenngtr -- age ??, female, white, school, born PA

In the 1880 US Census, the D.J. Carringer family resided in Boulder, Boulder County, Colorado.[6] The household included:

*   D.J. Carringer -- white, male, age 51, married, a carpenter and joiner, born PA, parents born PA
*  Rebecca Carringer -- white, female, age 48, wife, married, keeping house, born PA, parents born PA
*  Harvey E. Carringer -- white, male, age 27, son, single, farming, born PA, parents born PA
*  Henry A. Carringer -- white, male, age 26, son, single, millwright and carpenter, born PA, parents born PA

In the 1885 Colorado State Census, the David J. Carringer family resided in Boulder County, Colorado.[7] The household included:

*  D. J. Carringer - white, male, age 56, married, a fruit grower, born Pa., parents born Pa/Ohio
*  Rebecca Carringer - white, female, age 53, wife, married, housework, born Pa., parents born Pa./Pa.
*  Harvey E. Carringer - white, male, age 28, son, single, a clerk, born Pa., parents born Pa./Pa.

In the 1900 U.S. census, the David J. Carringer family resided at the corner of Horton and Ella Streets (now 30th and Ivy) in the 4th Ward of San Diego, San Diego County, California.[8] The household included:

*  David J. Carringer -- head of household, white, male, born Nov 1828, age 71, married 49 years, born PA, father born PA, mother born OH, no occupation, owns home free of mortgage
*  Rebecca Carringer -- wife, white, female, born Apr 1833, age 67, married 49 years, had 3 children, two children living, born PA, parents born PA
*  Harvey E. Carringer -- son, white, male, born Aug 1852, age 47, born PA, parents born PA, no occupation

In the "Deaths" section of the D.J. and Rebecca (Spangler) Carringer Bible:[9]

San Diego Calif
Rebecca Carringer
Aged 69 yrs 8 Months & 11 days
died Dec 13 1901 - She was Daughter
of Daniel & Elisabeth Spangler

Rebecca (Spangler) Carringer's gravestone is in La Vista Memorial Park in National City, California,[11, 12] next to her husband's stone and the stone of her grandson, Devier D. Carringer.  The inscription on Rebecca's stone is:

Rebecca S. Carringer

A death notice was published in the San Diego Evening Tribune newspaper on 14 December 1901.[10]  It says:

"Mrs. Rebecca Carringer, wife of D.J. Carringer, died at her home on Brooklyn Heights yesterday.  The funeral will be held from Whitson's tomorrow morning."


1. Edward W. Spangler, The Annals of the Families of Caspar, Henry, Baltzer and George Spengler Who Settled in York County Respectively in 1729, 1732, 1732 and 1751, with Biographical and Historical Sketches, and Memorabilia of Contemporaneous Local Events (York, Penn. : n.p., 1896), page 192, John Daniel Spangler sketch.

2. Rebecca (Spangler) Carringer, Carringer Family Births, Marriages and Deaths (loose pages, 1828-1946) (n.p. : n.p., n.d. before 1901), Births, Rebeccah Spangler entry, 2 April 1832.

3. 1850 United States Federal Census, Mercer County, Pennsylvania, population schedule, Sandy Creek township, Page 312, dwelling #854, family #901, Daniel Spangler household, online database, (; citing National Archives Microfilm Publication M432, Roll 796.

4. 1860 United States Federal Census, Population Schedule, Louisa County, Iowa, Columbus City,  Page 857, house #558, family #558, D.J. Carringer household; digital image, (; citing National Archives Microfilm Series M653, Roll 331.

5. 1870 United States Federal Census, Population Schedule, Washington County, Iowa, Jackson township: Page 131, house #49, family #49, D.J. Carringer household; digital image, (; citing National Archives Microfilm Publication M593, Roll 424.

6. 1880 United States Federal Census, Population Schedule, Boulder County, Colorado, Boulder: Page 525B, D.J. Carringer household; digital image, (; citing National Archives Microfilm Publication T9, Roll 89.

7. "Colorado State Census, 1885," online database, (, County of Boulder, Enumeration district 1, Page 102 (penned), dwelling #1163, family #1177, D.J. Carringer entry.

8. 1900 United States Federal Census, Population Schedule, San Diego County, California, San Diego City 4th Ward; ED 194, sheet 19B, house #440, family #496, D.j. Carringer household, (, citing National Archives Microfilm Publication T623, Roll 99.

9. Rebecca (Spangler) Carringer, Carringer Family Births, Marriages and Deaths (loose pages, 1828-1946), Deaths, Rebecca Carringer entry, 13 December 1901.

10. San Diego [Calif.] Evening Tribune, print edition (San Diego, Calif. : San Diego Union Publishing Company), 14 December 1901, page 6, column 1, "Obituaries" section, Mrs. Rebecca Carringer obituary.

11. La Vista Memorial Park (National City, San Diego, CA), Grave markers, Rebecca S. Carringer Gravestone, 1901.

12. Jim Tipton, indexed database, Find A Grave (, La Vista Cemetery (National City, Calif.), Rebecca Spangler Carringer memorial.

13. Rebecca (Spangler) Carringer, Carringer Family Births, Marriages and Deaths (loose pages, 1828-1946), Marriages, entry for D.J. Carringer and Rebeckah Spangler, 16 October 1851.


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Thursday, May 1, 2014

Victorian Youth Offender Records Contest has offered Genea-Musings readers the opportunity to win a 3-month Ancestry World Explorer membership by perusing the West Yorkshire Record Collection, 1779-1914.

The records that can be perused to enter the contest include:

  • West Yorkshire England Reformatory School Records 1856-1914
  • West Yorkshire, England, Prison Records, 1801-1914

  • The contest rules:

    1)  Find an interesting case in one of the two databases noted above.  It could be one of your ancestors, a person in your family, or a random person.

    2)  Post a brief summary of the interesting case in a comment to this post, or on your own blog, and leave a comment on this blog post with a link to your blog post.  

    3)  Highlight your blog post or comment on Twitter, Facebook or Google+ with a link to it.

    4)  Entries will close on Sunday, 11 May 2014 at 12 midnight Pacific time (0700 UTC Monday, 12 May).  

    5)  I will select one entry using a random number generator to be the winner, and announce the winner in a separate blog post with the entrant's comment and link.

    6)  The winner will need to contact me by email after the selection, and I will pass their name and email address to for the prize award of a 3-month World Explorer subscription.

    NOTE:  Entrants will need a current World Explorer or UK subscription, or sign up for a 14-day free trial at in order to find the interesting records.  If you do the free trial, you will need to enter a valid credit card number in order to obtain the free trial.

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    RootsMagic 6 Software Updates - Post 2: Importing Descendants from FamilySearch

    The RootsMagic 6 genealogy software program was updated to Version on 24 April 2014 to incorporate a number of new features and improvements.  The list can be seen at

    One of the items on the list is:  "New: Importing descendants from FamilySearch Family Tree now follows all lines of descent."

    I admit that I didn't know that I could import ancestors from the FamilySearch Family Tree, when did that occur?  Now they provide it for descendants also.  This is, potentially, a significant capability for RootsMagic (and I know that Legacy Family Tree 8 can do this also).  

    So I wanted to try it out to see how it worked, what information was transferred, etc.  Here is my experience:

    1)  I opened a new RootsMagic 6 file using the "File" > "New" menu, and after naming it and specifying the file directory for it, the new file opened:

    As you can see, there are no persons in the new file.  I could start typing into the program, but I'm not going to do that.  I could import a GEDCOM file created by a software program or an online tree.

    I want to import persons from the FamilySearch Family Tree, so I clicked on the File menu and then on the "FamilySearch Central" item in the File menu list, as shown above.

    2)  After clicking on the "FamilySearch Central" link, the "FamilySearch Central" screen opened, and there are four buttons across the top of the screen for:

    *  Find matches
    *  Share data
    *  Import
    *  AutoMatch

    I want to import persons from the FamilySearch Family Tree, so I clicked on "Import" and saw:

    On the "Import a Tree from FamilySearch" screen shown above, I could choose the Start Person, and then umber of generations of ancestors and descendants to download.

    The Start Person could be myself in the Family Tree, or I could use the FamilySearch ID for a specific person in the tree.  I chose to do the latter, using the person ID for my third great-grandfather, Abraham James Kemp (1795-ca 1881).  I chose to download 2 generations of ancestors and 5 generations of descendants.

    3)  I clicked on the "Import" button and it took several minutes to download the requested persons from the FamilySearch Family Tree.  A progress window defines how many persons and families have been currently downloaded, as shown below early in the downloading process:

    4)  When the downloading was complete, I was back to the "FamilySearch Central" screen and it indicated that 391 persons in the new RootsMagic tree had been matched  to persons in the FamilySearch Family Tree:

    5)  I closed the "FamilySearch Central" screen, and saw the Pedigree view in RootsMagic with Abraham James Kemp in the #1 position:

    6)  I wanted to see what had been imported, so I clicked on the "File" menu item, then on the "Properties" item to see the "Database Properties" list:

    The information imported from FamilySearch Family Tree included;

    *  391 people
    *  135 families
    *  946 events
    *  347 places

    There were no alternate names, no sources, no citations, no repositories, no multimedia items, no multimedia links, etc.

    I double-clicked on the name of Abraham James Kemp and saw his "Edit Person" screen:

    As you can see, there are four events that transferred - a birth, a christening, a marriage and a death.  There are no notes, no sources, no media attached for this person.  There are no alternate names, alternate events, etc.

    7)  I went into the FamilySearch Family Tree to see what information was available for Abraham James Kemp and saw (four screens, a little overlap):

     As you can see, there are other bits of information - alternate names, religious affiliation, and occupation.  There is one source attached to this person.

    A researcher could capture the alternate names, the other information, the source citations, the notes, the photographs, the stories, etc. and add them to their RootsMagic file by sharing data with the Family Tree, by saving files to their computer, or by copy and pasting information.

    More importantly for me, there were two sets of parents attached to Abraham James Kemp.  He is listed in the family of John Kemp Jr. (LCPF-7S2) and Mary Dafoe (LD5N-G53).  Another set of parents - John Kemp (L6L1-YJW) and Mary Dafoe (LD5N-G53) - are also listed.  The first set of parents are currently listed as "Preferred" which is correct.  However, when the file was imported, the second set of parents were the ones imported, not the "preferred" parents.

    8)  My conclusions from this study include:

    *  This importing of information from the FamilySearch Family Tree is very efficient - it works quickly and straightforward.

    *  The information imported is what is available in the FamilySearch Family Tree at the time of the import.  That includes names, dates, places, and relationships in the format they are in in the Family Tree.

    *  The information imported for a specific person is limited to the relationships (parents, spouses, children) and the vital events (birth, christening, marriage, death and burial).

    *  No photographs, stories, sources, citations, or media items are imported even though they are available in the FamilySearch Family Tree.

    *  If you perform the import while in an existing tree in RootsMagic, information in the Family Tree for the imported persons may be added to your existing RootsMagic tree. In addition, duplicate individuals may be added.  

    *  I prefer to download the information to a new RootsMagic file and then selectively add the information to an existing RootsMagic file so that I can control the standard name, date, and place formatting and ensure that the relationships match the supporting documentation.  

    *  The only significant problem I saw was the "preferred" parent designation - the "preferred" parents should be imported to RootsMagic.

    *  This capability to import ancestors and descendants from a specific person can be very useful to researchers just starting out, or who discover a link to persons already in the Family Tree and want to capture the information, or who are doing descendancy research from a specific person.

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    Treasure Chest Thursday - Post 212: Death Certificate of Henry Austin Carringer (1853-1946)

    It's Treasure Chest Thursday - time to look in my digital image files to see what treasures I can find for my family history and genealogy musings.

    The treasure today is the Death Certificate for Henry Austin Carringer (1853-1946) who died in San Diego County, California.  

    The transcription of this death certificate is (handwritten items in italics, form entries underlined):

    District No.  3701    Registrar's No.     2717    
    1.  FULL NAME:     Henry Austin Carringer       
    2.  Place of Death: (A) County:  San Diego   
    (B) City or town:   San Diego    
    (C) Name of Hospital or Institution:    Quintard Hospital .  
    (D)  Length of Stay:  In Hospital or Institution:   2 days  In This Community:  59 yrs   In California:  59  yrs.  
    (E) If foreign born, how long in the U.S.A.:   Life   years
    3.  Usual Residence of Deceased:  (A)  State:  California  
    (B) County:  San Diego   
    (C)  City or Town:  San Diego   
    (D) Street No.:  2115 30th Street  
    (E) If Veteran, Name of War:  No  
    (F)  Social Security No.:  None
    4.  Sex:  Male   
    5.  Color or Race:  White   
    6.  (A) Single, Married, widowed or Divorced:   Widowed   
    (B)  Name of Husband or Wife:  Della A. Carringer   
    (C)  Age of Husband or Wife if Alive:  ---   
    7.  Birthdate of Deceased:  November 26, 1853   
    8.  Age:   93   Yrs  0  Mos   4   Days
    9.  Birthplace:   Mercer County , Pennsylvania  .
    10.  Usual Occupation:   Woodshop Foreman   
    11.  Industry or Business:   Retired    
    12.  Father's Name:   David J. Carringer   
    13.  Father's Birthplace:   Pennsylvania  
    14.  Mother's Maiden Name:   Rebecca Spangler    
    15.  Mother's Birthplace:   Pennsylvania  
    16.  (A) Informant:    Lyle L. Carringer     
    (B) Address:  2115 30th St., San Diego, Calif.
    17.  (A) Cremation  
    (B)  Date:   Dec 3 1946   
    (C) Place:  Cypress View Crematory  
    18.  (A)  Embalmer's signature:  R. W. Sanburn   License No.  608  
    (B)  Funeral Director:  Benbough Mortuary  Address:  711 Date St., San Diego, Calif.   By:  G. Doran   
    19.  (A) Date Filed: 12/3/46  
    (B) Registrar's Signature:  Alex M. Larson, M.D.

    20.  Date of Death:   Month:   November  Day  30  Year  1946  Hour  9  Minute  00 AM 

    21.  MEDICAL CERTIFICATE:  I hereby Certify that I attended the Deceased from   Nov 28 1946   to   Nov 30 1946   That I has saw h im  alive on Nov 30 1946  and that death occurred on the date and hour stated above.
    Immediate cause of death:  Cerebral hemorrhage   
    Due to:   arteriosclerotic disease  
    Other Conditions:  None    
    Major Findings: of operations:  None performed   Of Autopsy  -----   

    22  CORONER'S CERTIFICATE   [blank]
    23.  If Death was due to external causes, fill in the following:  [blank]   
    24.  Coroner's or Physician's Signature:   G. Berdue (?) MD.   
    Address:  3701 - 4th    Date:  12-3-46  


    The source citation for this death certificate is (using the Evidence Explained template for a Death Certificate, local level):

    Henry Austin Carringer, Certificate of Death, Local Registration District 3701 (San Diego), Registrar's No. 2717 (1946), State of California Department of Public Health, San Diego, California.

    I don't see any obvious errors on this form.  The signatures are difficult to read and may be erroneous on the transcript above.  

    As a result of this death certificate, I now know his birth and death dates and places, her parents names, her husband's name, their address, the cause of death, the place and time of death, the physician's name, and the disposition of his body.

    Henry Austin Carringer is my great-grandfather, husband of Abbie Ardell "Della" (Smith) Carringer (1862-1944), and the father of my grandfather, Lyle L. Carringer (1891-1976).

    I obtained this death certificate from the San Diego County Recorder on 28 April 2014 by walking into the Chula Vista office and requesting it, while forking over $21 for a certificate with the banner "Informational, Not a Valid Document To Establish Identity" on it.  

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    UPDATED:  Claire deciphered the disease for me.  Thanks!