Saturday, April 8, 2017

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun -- A Family's Increase

Hey genea-folks, 
it's Saturday Night again, 

 time for more Genealogy Fun!


Your mission this week, should you decide to accept it, is to:

1) Pick one of your sets of great-grandparents - if possible, the one with the most descendants.

2) Create a descendants list for those great-grandparents either by hand or in your software program.

3) Tell us how many descendants, living or dead, are in each generation from those great-grandparents.

4) How many are still living? Of those, how many have you met and exchanged family information with? Are there any that you should make contact with ASAP? Please don't use last names of living people for this - respect their privacy.

5) Write about it in your own blog post, in comments to this post, or in comments or a Note on Facebook.

Here's mine:

1) I chose my great-grandparents, Thomas Richmond (1848-1917) and Julia (White) Richmond (1848-1913).

2) I made a Descendants List report in RootsMagic 7.  Then I counted each generation on my fingers.

3) Their descendants, that I am aware of, number by generation:

1. Children = 9 (all deceased)
2. Grandchildren = 18 (all deceased)
3. Great-grandchildren = 20 (11 living, 9 deceased)
4. Great-great-grandchildren = 36 (34 living, 2 deceased)
5. 3rd great-grandchildren = 35 (all living)
6. 4th great-grandchildren = 7 (all living)
7. 5th great-grandchildren = 0

4) So the increase is at least 125 persons, and probably more. I have met 50 out of the 87 still alive. I met 15 out of the 38 that are now deceased, and 9 of the deceased died before I was born. So that leaves at least 37 still alive that I have not met, and most of them are younger than me.

My problem isn't with the ones I know about - it is trying to trace the lines that I lost after the 1940 census - descendants of my grandmother's siblings. I know that there should be more persons on this list - I just don't have the second and third cousin contacts I need.

I need to find more descendants of:

* Walter Pickford (1864-1918) and Anne Richmond (1869-1939),
* Everett Richmond (1875-1917) and Ethel Pierce,
* Alfred Shaw (1884-1919) and Grace Richmond (1876-1963),
* Edwin Richmond (1883-1935) and Alice Corey (1884-1979),
* James Richmond (1885-1913) and Ethel Judson.

Each of these couples had children that I am aware of, but only in two cases do I know names of their grandchildren, and in only two do I know of great-grandchildren. Our line lost track of many of these cousins when my grandparents died.

From the descendants report for my great-grandparents Richmond, I did not count the spouses of descendants of my great-grandparents, since they are not descendants.

While doing this reporting and counting, I figured out some ways to search for some of the "missing" cousins in online vital records indexes, obituaries and gravestones, at the least!

Was this too complicated? I hope not! It's really a straightforward reporting and counting exercise. The point is, of course, to get you to think about aunts and uncles and cousins that you could contact for genealogy records, family history and DNA testing.


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Surname Saturday -- MARTIN (England to colonial New England)

's Surname Saturday, and I'm "counting down" my Ancestral Name List each week.  

I am in the 8th great-grandmothers and I'm  up to Ancestor #1773, who is Hannah MARTIN (1643-1730) 
[Note: the earlier great-grandmothers and 8th great-grandfathers have been covered in earlier posts].

My ancestral line back through two generations of this MARTIN family line is:

1. Randall J. Seaver (1943-????)

2. Frederick Walton Seaver (1911-1983)
3. Betty Virginia Carringer (1919-2002)

6.  Lyle Lawrence Carringer (1891-1976)
7.  Emily Kemp Auble (1899-1977)

12.  Henry Austin Carringer (1853-1946)
13.  Abbie Ardelle "Della" Smith (1862-1944)

26.  Devier James Lamphier Smith (1849-1894)
27.  Abigail A. "Abbey" Vaux (1844-1931)

54.  Samuel Vaux (1816-1880)
55.  Mary Ann Underhill (1815-1883)

110.  Amos Underhill (1772-1865)
111.  Mary "Polly" Metcalf (1780-1855)

220.  John Underhill (1745-1816)
221.  Hannah Colby (1745-????)

442.  Joseph Colby (1707-1768)
443.  Abigail Worthen (1714-????)

886.  Ezekiel Worthen (1672-1765)
887.  Abigail Carter (1686-1752)

1772.  Ezekiel Worthen, born before 15 April 1636 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; died 15 June 1716 in Salisbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States.  He was the son of 3544. George Wathen and 3545. Margery Hayward.  He married 04 October 1661 in Salisbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States.
1773.  Hannah Martin, born 01 February 1643 in Salisbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States; died 29 June 1730 in Salisbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States.

Children of Ezekiel Worthen and Hannah Martin are:
*  Hannah Worthen (1663-1730), married 1684 Samuel Fowler (1660-1737).
*  John Worthen (1665-1743), married 1689 Mary Hadlock (1662-1743).
*  Thomas Worthen (1667-1702), married 1700 Hannah Annis (1679-1762).
*  George Worthen (1669-1745), married (1) 1699 Ann Annis (1681-1732); (2) 1732 Deborah Bartlett (1680-????).
*  Ezekiel Worthen (1672-1765), married 1704 Abigail Carter (1686-1752).
*  Margaret Worthen (1674-????), married 1699 George Weed (1661-1731).
*  Samuel Worthen (1677-1735), married (1) 1701 Deliverance Heath (1680-1714); (2) 1722 Elizabeth Johnson (1699-????).
*  Dorothy Worthen (1680-????), married (1) 1702 Joseph Hoyt (1666-1720); (2) 1724 Daniel Flanders (1674-1735).
*  Judith Worthen (1685-1759), married 1708 Abraham Page (1683-1752).
*  Deborah Worthen (1686-????), married 1714 Eleazer Wells (1686-????).

3546.  George Martin, born 1618 in Ramsey, Cambridgeshire, England; died 23 November 1686 in Salisbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States.  He married before 1643 in Massachusetts, United States.
3547.  Hannah LNU, born about 1624 in England; died before 1646 in Salisbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States.

Child of George Martin and Hannah is:
*  Hannah Martin (1643-1730), married 1661 Ezekiel Worthen (1636-1713).

NOTE:  George Martin was married (2) to Susannah North (1621-1692), and had 9 children with her between 1647 and 1667.  Susannah (North) Martin was a hanged Salem witch.

Information about this Martin family was obtained from:

*  Elliot Burnham Watson MD and Rev. Alven Martyn Smith, George Martin of Salisbury, Mass. and his Descendants (1929).  Accesed on FHL microfilm US/CAN 0,215,615.

*  David Webster Hoyt, The Old Families of Salisbury and Amesbury, Massachusetts ; with some related families of Newbury, Haverhill, Ipswich and Hampton (Providence, R.I., Snow & Farnham, printers, 1897-1917)

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Friday, April 7, 2017

Get Free Advice About and Access to Probate Records on NEHGS on 18-25 April 2017

The New England Historic Genealogical Society will be offering free advice about probate records in an "Understanding Probate Records" event scheduled for April 18 to 25.  They will also provide a period of free access to the probate records that are searchable on their American Ancestors website.

The information about the event from NEHGS is:

"As many of you know, probate records can be an invaluable resource for family historians. Later this month, the New England Historic Genealogical Society will be offering free access to their probate databases, along with other resources that explain how to use probate records to best effect. NEHGS has asked me if my readers would like to submit questions they have about using probate records. Their probate experts will answer those questions later this month on the website.

"So please send in any probate questions you have and get free advice from NEHGS experts! The deadline for submitting questions is April 12. Please keep questions from getting too specific about a particular ancestor (though you can always give it a try!). Though they may not be able to answer every single question, NEHGS will commit to answering as many as possible."

I will be collecting questions from my readers and will pass them to the NEHGS experts.  Please comment on this blog post, or email me at, to ask your questions.  Note the deadline of Wednesday, 12 April 2017 for questions.

What type of questions should you ask?  An example is “Why is my ancestor not in these records?”  Or "What probate records does NEHGS have?" Or "What types of documents might be found in these records?" Please note that NEHGS cannot commit to doing actual research for individuals.

During the event, there will be a unique URL leading to a page on with the answers to readers’ probate questions.  


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RootsWeb Can't Create a New Mailing List Right Now. Later?

Reader Nancy emailed me with this information after trying to create a new RootsWeb mailing list:


Dear Nancy, 

Thank you for contacting RootsWeb in regard to the requesting of a new Mailing List.

We appreciate your desire to request a new Mailing List.  We will provide you with the information we have available concerning this.  We have recently upgraded our technical infrastructure.  Some processes were on hold until the upgrade was complete.  There are currently some Mailing List functions that are still not functional.  This includes the ability to create new Mailing Lists.  Once work is finished everything should be working as normal again.  Unfortunately, we do not have a time frame as to when this work may be completed.

We apologize for the inconvenience, and appreciate your continued patience.
If there is anything else with which we might assist you, please let us know. 

RootsWeb Support Team 

My comment:  Well, that's not good news.  I hope works on this to recover all of the capabilities of RootsWeb mailing lists and message boards.  In my humble opinion, these are two of the best "social media" websites for genealogists because the posts can easily be searched by search engines.


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New Records Available To Search This Findmypast Friday, 7 April 2017

I received this information from Findmypast today:


New Records Available To Search This Findmypast Friday

There are over 5.9 million new records available to search this Findmypast Friday including new Scottish additions to the Catholic Heritage Archive and brand new parish records from the English county of Wiltshire.

Wiltshire parish baptisms index 1538-1917

Explore over 2.1 million records including a number of rare early parish records to discover if your ancestor was born in the British county of Wiltshire in South West England. Some records date back to 1530 though most generally begin in 1538 and, until the introduction of civil registration in 1837, were the most reliable documented source of records for life events. Whilst the registers are for Church of England parishes, most other denominations also used the Anglican parishes for registration purposes, with the exception of Quaker and Jewish records. Transcriptions were created by both Findmypast and Wiltshire Family History Society.

Each record contains a transcription created from either an original parish registers or bishop’s transcript. The information listed varies, but most will include a combination of your ancestor’s birth date, baptism date, parish and parents’ names.

Wiltshire parish banns index 1538-1933

Search over 126,000 records to find out where and when their intention to marry was announced, their residence and the name of their intended spouse. 

Banns are proclamations of a couple’s intention to marry. The proclamation is made in the resident parish of the couple three months prior to their intended marriage date. The fact that a banns record exists does not confirm that the marriage took place.

Wiltshire parish marriages index 1538-1933

Uncover details of your ancestor’s marriage with over 944,000 records. This collection contains marriage records gathered from two sources. One set of records, which only provide transcripts, was created from the original parish registers and bishop’s transcripts held by the Wiltshire Record Office. The other set of records also includes images of original Phillimore’s marriage registers.

Each record will reveal your ancestors birth year, marital status, residence, marriage date, whether they were married by banns or license, fathers name, spouse’s details and the names of any witnesses.

Wiltshire parish burials index 1538-1991

Explore more than 1.4 million records to find out where your Wiltshire ancestors were laid to rest and where they spent their final years. Burial records are a critical resource for your family tree. They help to bring to a close your ancestor’s story while providing clues about your ancestor’s final years.
Each record includes a transcript of an original parish register or bishop’s transcript that will reveal the year of your ancestors birth, the date of their death, the date of their burial and the location.

Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Congregational Records

Delve through more than 268,000 assorted congregational records including registers of confirmations and communion recipients, as well as parish lists, seat rentals, and lists of people who converted to Catholicism.

With each result, you will find a transcript and an image of the original documents. The amount of information you discover in each record will depend on the parish’s standard of record keeping, the age of the document, and the document’s physical condition.

Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms

Discover your Catholic Scottish ancestors with new sacramental registers. These latest additions to the Catholic Heritage Archive cover all eight Scottish dioceses and encompasses over 300 years of record keeping.

With each result, you will find a transcript and an image of the original sacramental register. The amount of information you will discover may vary from record to record although most will include a combination of your ancestor’s birth date, baptism date, denomination, home parish and parent’s names.

Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Marriages

Did your Catholic ancestor get married in Scotland?  Search more than 197,000 records taken from original Roman Catholic sacramental registers and discover the location of your ancestor’s wedding, the date, as well as the names of the couple’s fathers and of those who witnessed the occasion.
The results will comprise both an image of the original matrimonial registers and a transcript of the key facts. The amount of detail in each transcript will vary depending on the age of the document (later records tend to include more details) and the condition of the record (some records may have been damaged over the centuries).  Marriages are an excellent way of identifying previously undiscovered branches of your family tree and.

Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Burials

Learn more about your Catholic Scottish heritage with new Roman Catholic burial registers. The records will contain the location of your ancestor’s final resting place, the date of your ancestor’s burial, and, in many cases, your ancestor’s cause of death.

Each record provides an image of the sacramental register from The Scottish Catholic Archives and a transcript of the vital details. Images may reveal additional details such as your ancestor’s cause of death, marital status, the name of the person who ordered their internment (usually next of kin) and any additional comments.

Britain, Wills Of Famous Persons 1552-1849

Explore a fascinating collection of wills left by famous Britons throughout history. Read wills left by a variety of notable figures ranging from members of the British Royal Family, writers and artists to politicians, soldiers, and civil servants.

This collection of wills is from The National Archives (TNA) and comprises Series PROB 1 – Prerogative Court of Canterbury: Wills of Selected Famous Persons. The documents included in this series often include additional material other than the last will and testament. Additional documents may include affidavits proving authenticity, personal letters, and personal diaries. Please note that some images are of copies – they are noted as such because they were either annotated as copies or because the signatures of the witnesses and testator are in the same hand as the rest of the document. For those annotated as copies, the originals were in the care of the Court before the copies were created.


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