Friday, October 9, 2015

How to Correct or Add Alternate Information to an Record permits users to correct or add alternate information to many of their database records.  The addition or correction is added to the Index, but the original indexed information is retained, even if it's wrong.

In years past, the user could add or correct information from the actual record image and the image indexed information.  Now, it is only possible to add or correct from the record summary page using the "Add Alternate Information" link.

For example, here is the record summary page for the 1870 U.S. census for my great-grandfather, Frank Walton Seaver (1852-1922):

The "Add alternate information" link is on the left side of the screen, below the thumbnail image and the "Show blank Form" link and above the "Report issue" link.

I wanted to add his birth name to this record, so I clicked on "Add additional information" link and a popup window appeared titled "Add or update for Frank W. Seaver."  I clicked on the dropdown menu arrow and the choices were:

I could choose to add or edit:

*  Family Number
*  Name
*  Estimated Birth Year
*  Birthplace
*  Age
*  Race

I selected "Name" and another popup window appeared, and I could choose a Reason for the change:

The Reasons to add or correct a Name are:

*  Transcription error
*  Incorrect in image
*  Nick Name
*  Name Change
*  Variation
*  Maiden Name

I chose "Variation" and then corrected the first name to "Frank Walton" from "Frank W."

I could add a reason for the change in the "Explain or Source your update (optional)" box:

I added a reason.

When I was done, I could click on the orange "Submit Alternate" button.  The change should be added to the index for this census in several weeks.

This process is fairly straightforward and easy to understand.  It works, but not immediately.

Does any other record provider permit corrections or additions to their databases or record collections?  I don't recall.  I'll check on this!

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52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks - Week 93: #113 Sophia (Trimmer) Able (1755-before 1811)

Amy Johnson Crow suggested a weekly blog theme of "52 Ancestors" in her blog post Challenge:  52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks on the No Story Too Small blog.  I am extending this theme in 2015 to 104 Ancestors in 104 Weeks. Here is my ancestor biography for week #93:

Sophia Trimmer (about 1755 - before 1811) is #113 on my Ahnentafel list, my 4th great-grandmother, who married #112 Johannes Able (about 1758-1818) in 1777.

I am descended through:

* their son, #56 John Auble (1780-1831), who married #57  Anna Row (1787-1860) in 1804, 

*  their son, #28 David Auble (1817-1894), who married #29 Sarah G. Knapp (1818-after 1900) in 1844.
*  their son #14 Charles Auble (1849-1916), who married #15 Georgianna Kemp (1868-1952) in 1898.
*  their daughter #7 Emily Kemp Auble (1899-1977) who married #6 Lyle Lawrence Carringer in 1918.
*  their daughter, #3 Betty Virginia Carringer (1919-2002), who married #2 Frederick Walton Seaver (1911-1983) in 1942.

*  their son, #1 Randall J. Seaver (1943-....)


1)  PERSON (with source citations as indicated in brackets):

*  Name:                      Sophia Trimmer[1-3]    
*  Sex:                         Female   

*  Father:                     Matthias Trimmer (1722-1793)   
*  Mother:                   Anna Martha Nachbar (1724-    )   
2)  INDIVIDUAL EVENTS (with source citations as indicated in brackets):
*  Birth:                      about 1755, Amwell, Hunterdon, New Jersey, United States[1]   
*  Death:                    before 1811 (before about age 56), Sussex, New Jersey, United States   
3)  SHARED EVENTS (with source citations as indicated in brackets):
*  Spouse 1:               Johannes Able (1758-1818)   
*  Marriage:              30 January 1777 (about age 22), Oldwick, Hunterdon, New Jersey, United States[2–4]

*  Child 1:                  Anna Maria Able (1778-    )   
*  Child 2:                  John Auble (1780-1831)   
*  Child 3:                  Anna Maria Able (1784-    )   
*  Child 4:                  David Able (1787-1858)   
*  Child 5:                  Elisabeth Able (1789-    )   
*  Child 6:                  George Able (1793-1870)   
*  Child 7:                  Jacob Able (1796-1837)                

4)  GENERAL NOTES (with source citations as indicated in brackets):

Sophia Trimmer was born in about 1755 in Amwell, New Jersey to Matthias and Anna Martha (Nachbar) Trimmer.  She is named as "Sofie Abel" (wife of John Auble) in her father's 1791 will.[1]

Sophia Trimmer married John Abel on 30 January 1777 in the Zion Lutheran Church[2-3].  The marriage record in the Zion Lutheran Church records say:

"[1777] John Abel & Sophia Trimmer, Jam. 30"

Zion Lutheran Church birth and baptism records (New Germantown, New Jersey) include the children of Johannes/John and Sophia (Trimmer) Abel/Able/Auble[4].

Sophia (Trimmer) Able probably died before 1811, when John Able married, secondly, to widow Mary Cripps on 17 April 1811.

1. Theodore Frelinghuysen Chambers, The Early Germans of New Jersey: their history, churches, and genealogies (Baltimore, Md.: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1982), pages 533-539, Trimmer family sketch.

2. Norman C. Wittwer and D. A. Sinclair, "Marriage Records of the Zion Lutheran Church at Oldwick," Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey, Volume XL, page 10, John Abel and Sophia Trimmer entry, 1777.

3. Juanita Hayter Crampton, The Able Aubles (Utica, Kentucky: Mcdowell Publications, 1987), page 33, John Able sketch; digital image, FamilySearch Books ( : accessed 27 June 2014).

4. Ben Van D. Fisher, "Records of the Corporation of Zion in New Germantown in West Jersey - Births and Baptisms," Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey, Volumes XXX to XXXIII (1900-1903), January 1901, page 36.


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Thursday, October 8, 2015 Eyes Programmatic TV

My google alert for "" found an interesting article today - see "Ancestry Finds Winning Combination in TV Plus Digital, Eyes Programming TV" by Sarah Sluis on the AdExchanger web site.

The article starts off with:

"TV has long proven to be an effective channel for, a provider of genealogical software and services with more than 2 million subscribers.

"And 1 million have purchased its DNA testing product, AncestryDNA. Commercials advertising Ancestry are meant to be emotional and explain the value of using the family history search site and DNA product. TV is also an effective way to reach Ancestry’s target audience, which tends to be in the 45- to 65-year-old range.

"Ancestry and other digital, direct-response-focused advertisers like and Dollar Shave Club are investing heavily in TV.

"But Ancestry also sees an opportunity in programmatic TV, which it will test in coming months. Jay Eyunni, director of global digital media for Ancestry and a panelist at AdExchanger’s Programmatic I/O event on Oct. 29, talked about his company’s media strategies."

Hmmm, what is "Programmatic TV?"  I googled it and found this explanation in "WTF is Programmatic TV Advertising" on the DigiDay website:

"Rather than relying on ratings for specific shows or channels, marketers can use programmatic tech to reach a more specific subset of consumers, like men with a $50,000 income who own an Android device. They don’t care if that ad shows up on X Factor or the X Games, as long as the target audience is watching. Most TV audience targeting today is not quite that advanced, however, which is one reason why programmatic TV is still in its infancy."

Well, that's interesting.  It appears that, eventually, I will be seeing targeted advertising for persons in my demographic, my daughter will see targeted advertising for persons in her demographic, and my grandson will see targeted advertising for his demographic.  How will they know if a male or female, aged 75, 40 or 15, married or single, white or black, liberal or conservative, is watching?  One answer may be that we will each have our own personal video device with our demographics embedded in them.

We may even have filled out a survey of some sort to identify our demographics, our preferences, our interests, etc. and our personal video device will just play a 15 second, or a 30 second, or a 60 second advertisement that whets our interest.

The future is coming, and it may be a lot different than what we have now in terms of technology.

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Dear Randy: How Do You Save and Organize all of Those Probate Records?

I had an email recently from a correspondent who wishes to remain anonymous asking "Dear Randy, how do you save and organize all of those probate records that you found on"

Here is the step-by-step process that I use to find, capture, rename, save in a computer file folder, and work with a probate record file for one of my ancestors.

1)  I've been working through my Connecticut ancestors, and searched for the Oatley surname in the Connecticut, Wills and Probates, 1609-1999 database on  There were 11 matches listed:

The fourth one on the list is Amy Oatley, dated 1865, who may be my third great-grandmother, Amy (Champlin) Oatley (1798-1865, who died in Killingly, Windham County, Connecticut. But the record says the Probate County was Hartford.

2)  I clicked on the link for Amy Oatley, and saw the record summary for this probate record:

The record summary says that there are images for the Cover Page, two pages of Will Papers, two pages of Administration Papers, two pages of Petition Papers, two pages of Inventory Papers, and 8 pages of Account Papers.

3)  I clicked on the green "View" button on the image above, and saw the Cover Page in the window:

So this probate record does appear to be the Amy Oatley who died in 1865 in Killingly Probate District, some miles from Hartford.  Note the film strip below the record image - I can navigate forward or backward in the file for the next or previous page.  Note also the record image number in the overlay on the record image - the one above says "480 of 1439."  I can navigate to the previous or next image by using the left and right arrows, respectively.  Over on the right margin is the "Detail" summary of the record.  There are also "Related" and "Source" buttons there.

4)  Now I want to capture these 17 pages in this probate record and save them to my computer file system.

As you can see in the screen below, there is a green "Save" button in the upper right-hand corner of the screen:

When I click on the green "Save" button, there are three options:

*  Save to person in your tree
*  Save to your computer
*  Save to your Shoebox

5)  I chose "Save to your computer" and the file downloaded to my "Downloads" file folder on my computer.  The file name for the image above was 007627931_00480.jpg.  The file name of the next page in the file was 007627931_00481.jpg.  Note that the first image in this probate record is image 480 and the file name downloaded has "480" in the last three digits.

6)  I downloaded all 17 images, with file names from 007627931_00480.jpg to 007627931_00496.jpg.  I went to my "Downloads" folder on my computer. I  highlighted all 17 of the images saved, and then "Cut" them, and went to my file folder system.  In my system, I have these file folders for this family on my computer (the nesting is as shown):

*  My Documents
**  Genealogy
*** Ancestor Files
**** Family History - Seaver-Hildreth-Richmond-White
***** 01-jonathan oatley & amy champlin
****** Documents
******* Probate

I "Pasted" the 17 files into that folder.  Then I changed all of the file names so that I knew what they were.  So the file 007627931_00480.jpg became AmyOatley-1865-ProbateRecord-KillinglyCT-image480of1439 . Having done one of them, I copied that file name and edited the next one, Pasting the file name in and editing to change the image number.

The resulting file folder for Probate" with the 17 images now looks like this:

7)  Now I can work with these files.  The tasks I usually perform are:

*  Create a source citation for the probate record using RootsMagic.  In this case, it is:

Connecticut, Probate case files, Hartford Probate Packets, Mague-Russell, 1845-1880, images 480-496 of 1439, Amy Oatley case file; "Connecticut, Wills and Probates, 1609-1999," digital images, ( accessed 8 October 2015); citing Probate Files Collection, Early to 1880, Connecticut State Library (Hartford, Connecticut), Hartford, Connecticut.

*  Create a Probate event in RootsMagic with the probate date and location, and then attach the source citation to the event.
*  Transcribe the will into a word processing document, and then publish it in my Amanuensis Monday blog post series.  Summarize (or transcribe) the other papers in the probate file.
*  Copy and paste the transcribed and/or summarized records into the Note for the Probate event.
*  Attach the pertinent probate record images to the Probate event.
*  Attach the Event, Note, and Image to the person in the FamilySearch Family Tree.

Now I have these files on my computer and can use them as I wish.  I don't need to worry about having an Ancestry subscription in the future, or that will remove these records for whatever reason.  I will back them up to my external hard drive, to a cloud file retrieval service (I use now), and to my laptop computer.

8)  What I found out from the probate record is that Amy Oatley was the owner of the real estate, not her husband, Jonathan Oatley.  Because the property could not be easily divided (it was only 1/4 of an acre - just a home lot), it was put up an estate sale, and William H. Oatley, one of the sons of Jonathan and Amy Oatley, purchased the property.

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Treasure Chest Thursday -- Post 283: 1852 California State Census Entry for Rachel Wadle Family

It's Treasure Chest Thursday - time to look in my digital image files to see what treasures I can find for my family history and genealogy musings.

The treasure today is the  1852 California State Census record for Rachel "Wadle" and her children in San Francisco, California:

The Rachel Wadle household:

The information extracted for this household is:

*  Rachel Wadle - age 32, no occupation, born England, resided in Manchester
*  Eliz [Wadle] - age 13, born England, reside [Manchester]
*  Jos [Wadle] - age 9, born NSW
*  Jane [Wadle] - age 5, born [NSW]

The source citation for this record is:

"California State Census, 1852," digital image, ( : accessed 9 September 2010), San Francisco County, California, page 524 (penned), Rachel Wadle household; citing California State Library, Sacramento, California; 1852 California State Census, Roll #: 4; Repository Collection #: C144:4.

This was one of the breakthrough documents that I found that led me to breaking down the Jane (Whittle) McKnew (1847-1921) ancestry research problem, through the help of several Genea-Musings readers in a crowdsourcing effort.  Jane is, of course, the five year old Jane "Wadle" in the record above.  She was the daughter of Alexander and Rachel (Morley) Whittle, who sailed from England to Australia in 1841, settled in Sydney, had six children, and had a pub on the Sydney waterfront in the late 1840s.  Alexander came to California in 1850, went to the gold country around Angel's camp, and committed suicide in 1853.  Rachel brought the children in 1851, settled in San Francisco, and married again.  You can read the whole research story at The Whittle Research Compendium (30 September 2010).

Jane (Whittle) McKnew is my wife's great-grandmother, who married Elijah Pickrell McKnew (1836-1912) in 1865 in Tuolumne County, California.

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Wednesday, October 7, 2015

Where Did 567 Databases on Go? An Answer. UPDATED!

After I wrote Where Did 567 Databases on Go? on 18 September 2015, I hoped to receive an answer via email or a blog comment or a Facebook comment from

After ten days without a response, I posted a note on the Group on Facebook, saying:

"What happened to 567 databases on Ancestry during the week of September 14th? There were 32,682 in the Card Catalog on 13 September; on 18 September there were 32,222 (which included 7 new databases between 9/13 and 9/18). So 567 disappeared? What happened? Why doesn't Ancestry tell us, or warn us so we can work in them, when a database is removed from the list? See my blog post in"

After several days, and a prompt from me to some of the Ancestry personnel I know, I received this answer from Kristie Wells:

"Randy, we run regular maintenance on our collections and the databases that were removed were really old, low use records that were in a format that is not currently supported. Much of this data is also available in other collections. 

"We are not able to provide more details, but as you know we add a lot of content each week and regular maintenance has to be done. This one just happened to be a large batch."

Well, that's interesting, isn't it? had some databases in a format that was not supported by the current website programming (probably the "NEW Ancestry."  These databases were really old and were "low use" records, and much of the data is available in other collections.

I appreciate that Kristie responded to my question, and provided an informative response.  

I, and other researchers, would like to know which databases they were, but it appears that they cannot or will not provide the list of removed databases.  

This may happen all the time to one or two databases - I've noticed several times that the number of databases added in a week, according to Ancestry, does not match the change in the total number of databases week to week.  But it's impossible (it seems!) to tell which one or two were removed.  Oh well.

UPDATED 8 October 2015:  Kristie Wells commented on the earlier post today saying:

"I wanted to state it would not be in the best interest of Ancestry to remove collections that provided a good user experience or aren’t available elsewhere. As noted earlier, a good portion of the collections were duplicates of other collections we have available in improved formats and others are still being considered for re-keying. 

"Among the collections that were removed, were some text-only city directory indexes that were deleted as we now have indexes and browsable images of those very same directories. Many other collections were text-only local histories and other books that are now duplicated with images of the actual publication and an improved browse. 

"For example, the United Empire Loyalists series was text-only and difficult to navigate. We now have the volumes posted with browsable chapters and an index like this one: 

"Other examples include reference books like “The Source,” “Red Book,” and Juliana Szucs' “Family Historian’s Address Book.” The first two are now available free on the Ancestry Wiki: and Juliana's “Address Book” was last published in 2003 and most of the links in it and many of the addresses are out of date. There are much better ways to find a society or library now. 

"After nearly 20 years of publishing data and reference materials, it is important for us to audit our content to ensure it works with current technology and that customers are getting the best version of the data and reference information that they can incorporate into their family history.

"This is as much as I can say on the matter, but I hope most will see this was required maintenance to ensure the data we provide is reliable and actionable. "

Thank you, Kristie, for the explanation.

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SDGS Meeting on Saturday, 10 October -- Karen Cordova

The Saturday, 10 October program meeting of the San Diego Genealogical Society will start at 10 a.m. at St. Andrews Lutheran Church (8350 Lake Murray Blvd., just south of Jackson Drive).

The program speaker will be Karen Cordova presenting "Cuentos are Conejos ¡Dios Mio! They are Everywhere."

This will be an exploration of using genealogy to inform poetry. Karen S. Cordova is a writer and business woman who lives in Irvine, California. Karen has deep roots both in Southern Colorado and Northern New Mexico. She has participated in formal spoken word performances throughout the United States, and is especially proud to have been included in the 2010 Festival de Flor y Canto at the University of Southern California.

Karen likes to use genealogy, family stories, heirlooms, cultural history, and even DNA testing to inform her poetry and prose— and that will be the focus of her presentation. She will intersperse a few poems throughout her talk, and audience members with a poetic bent might even be inspired to do the same. This will be an interactive talk, so audience questions will be welcomed!

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Visiting the Finnish Olympic Shopping Team in 1999 -- Post 381 of (Not So) Wordless Wednesday

I'm posting old (and sometimes new) family photographs from my collection on Wednesdays, but they won't be wordless posts like others do - I am incapable of having a wordless post.

Here are some of the most precious (to me) images from my Seaver/Leland photograph collection:

In August 1999, we went to Scandinavia on vacation.  We visited Stockholm in Sweden, Tornio, Kuopio and Helsinki in Finland, Tallinn in Estonia, and Oslo, Voss and Bergen in Norway.

Our visit to Finland was the highlight - we got to visit the families of our two foreign exchange "daughters" - Mia from Tornio and Anna from Kuopio who were with us for three weeks in 1994 in Chula Vista.  We only had one day in Kuopio with Anna and her family, but we had a wonderful time reliving the good times from 1994 and seeing the sights of Kuopio.

The four girls we interacted with (Mia, Anna, a girl from Denmark and another from Italy) in Chula Vista really enjoyed going shopping at the mall with our daughter, Tami, who had a car.  They went so often that we called them the Olympic Shopping Team.  Chula Vista has an Olympic Training Center which they also visited.  

1)  Here are Linda, Anna, Aila (Mia's mother) and Mia atop an observation tower in central Kuopio:

2)  The Olympic Shopping Team from Finland receives their Olympic are Anna, Linda and Mia receiving their socks.

3)  It rained that evening - here are Anna, Linda, Randy and Mia smiling in the rain:

We have stayed in touch with Mia, who is married now with two children, but we have lost contact with Anna.  

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Tuesday, October 6, 2015

Why I Like the MyHeritage Record Matches - Found Obituary of William Russell Sever

Some of my society colleagues have asked me, "Why do you like MyHeritage?  I can't find anything there."  

My first response is "Did you upload your family tree to MyHeritage?"  If they say "No," then I recommend that they subscribe and upload a GEDCOM file.  If they say "Yes," then I ask "Do you have a data subscription to MyHeritage?"  If they say "No," then I tell them "You have to have a data subscription in order to see records."  If they say "Yes," then I ask "Have you looked at your Record Matches?"  Usually, they say "No.  What's that?"

Well, Record Matches are the records that MyHeritage has found for persons in your MyHeritage family tree.  While I sleep, watch baseball games, visit my grandchildren, write blog posts, search on Ancestry or FamilySearch - it does the hard lifting, and it does it really well.  Some people have said the accuracy of Record Matches is 98%.  I believe it (except for the newspapers).  The search algorithms are excellent!

The Newspaper collection at MyHeritage is different from the collections at other websites - they are part of the Record Matches.  MyHeritage seems to have access to all of the NewspaperARCHIVE collection, while, apparently, has some but does not access all of the collection.

I was browsing the NewspaperARCHIVE collection on MyHeritage using the 262 pending Record Matches today, and found many obituaries for Seaver/Sever folks in Massachusetts newspapers.  Here is a screen shot from MyHeritage for one of them:

This is from The Boston Daily Globe newspaper, dated 5 October 1887, on page 9 of 16.  The obituary transcription is:

A Large Number of Public Officials at the Funeral Service

"PLYMOUTH, MASS., Oct. 5. -- The funeral of William R. Sever took place at his late residence on Russell street at 11 o'clock today.  Among those attending were Dr. L. Russell, Elliot Russell, Francis H. Russell and Mrs. Thomas Russell of Boston, Clerk of court William H. Whitman, Register of Deeds, William S. Danforth and Sheriff A.K. Harmon of Plymouth, County Judge Charles G. Davis and Hon. Philander Cobb, collector of the port.

"The remains were encased in a plain broadcloth-covered casket, the plate bearing simply the words, 'William R. Sever, born May 30, 1791, died Oct. 2, 1887.'  A sheaf of wheat and wreath of autumn leaves lay upon the casket.  The service began with the reading of the Episcopal burial service by Rev. Winslow W. Sever of Providence, nephew of the deceased.  Rev. Frederick N. Knapp of  Plymouth then spoke of the simple life of Mr. Sever, of his unaffected speech and manners, his love of the truth, his uniform courtesy to those of high and low rank, his genial hopefulness and his great  regard for books.  As the oldest graduate of Harvard College, he took a becoming pride in his alma mater, and was a faithful representative of the institution.

"After a prayer by Rev. Mr. Knapp, a quartet composed of Mrs. John T. Holmes, Mrs. Edward W. DDrew, William F. Atwood and Dr. Thomas B. Drew, sang "Abide With Me."  Three nephews of Mr. Sever -- Rev. Winslow W. Sever of Providence, Charles W. Sever of Cambridge and A. Madera Harrison of Plymouth -- served as pall-bearers.  The remains were interred in the Sever family lot in Oak Grove cemetery."

This type of obituary is very formal and provides some idea of the personality and status of the individual.  Usually, they provide a long list of the surviving relatives.  In this case, there's just the three nephews listed.

William Russell Sever (1791-1887) never married.  He was the eldest son of John Sever (1766-1803) and Nancy Russell (1767-1848).  He had five siblings, who all pre-deceased him.  While four of them had 20 children between them, there were only four or five still alive in 1887.  He is my 4th cousin 6 times removed.

A source citation?  Sure, using the "Nespapers, Online images" temlate in RootsMagic:

"William R. Sever Buried," The Boston [Mass.] Daily Globe, 5 October 1887, Page 9 of 16, column 7, William R. Sever obituary; online image, MyHeritage ( : accessed 6 October 2015), NewspaperARCHIVE ( collection.

That was fun.  now to capture the other Seaver/Sever obituaries!

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FamilySearch Introduces Searching on Largest Genealogy Websites - Post 4: Searching on

On the FamilySearch Blog recently, Matt Wright wrote New Feature: Search Genealogy Records on the World's Largest Sites. 

On each profile in the FamilySearch Family Tree there is a box with links to FamilySearch, Ancestry, Findmypast and MyHeritage:

I wanted to see how this feature works, so I am going to use one of my tree persons, John Nicholas Brocke (1855-1938) (FSID L416-YCP) to see what records are found by each website.

I reviewed the search results on the other sites in:

 FamilySearch Introduces Searching on Largest Genealogy Websites - Post 1: FamilySearch Matches(30 September 2015)
*  FamilySearch Introduces Searching on Largest Genealogy Websites - Post 2: Searching on (1 October 2015)

*  FamilySearch Introduces Searching on Largest Genealogy Websites - Post 3: Searching on (2 October 2015)

1)  Here are the John Nicholas Brocke search results on (4 screens consecutive):

There are 17,305 matches on this list.  I didn't look at all of them.

The search form had these search field entries:

*  First and middle name = John Nicholas (match similar names, varying on spelling and matching initials)
*  Last name = Brocke (match similar names, Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex, Metaphone 3, and Refined Soundex)
*  Birth = 1855 (Match flexibly, rank by date closeness)
*  Death = 1938 (Match flexibly, rank by date closeness)

2)  The search results that applied to John Nicholas Brocke (1855-1938), as discerned by me, are:

#1: MyHeritage family tree (for Nicholas Brocke)
#2:  MyHeritage family tree (for Nicholas Brocke Sr.)
#3:  FamilySearch Family Tree (for John Nicholas Brocke)
#4:  1900 U.S. Census (for Nicholas Brocke)
#5:  1870 U.S. Census (for J. Nickolas Brocke)
#6.  MyHeritage family tree (for Nicolas Brocke)
#7:  FamilySearch Family Tree (for Nicholas John Brocke)
#9:  1920 U.S. Census (for Nickolas Brocke)
#12:  1930 U.S. Census (for Nicholas Brocke)

#488:  Washington Death Certificate (Nicholas Brocke father of Joseph Adolph Brocke)
#492:  Montana County Marriages (Nicholas Brocke father of Joseph A. Brocke)
#503:  Idaho Death Certificates (Nicholas Brocke husband of Anna Brocke)
#567:  Genealogy Today (Nick Brocke, in IOOF data)
#568, #569:  Idaho, Births and Christenings (Nicolas Brocke, father of Joseph Brocke)
#571:  Idaho, Births and Christenings (Nicolao Brocke, father of Charles Joseph Brocke)
#572, #575: Idaho, Births and Christenings (Nicolao Brocke, father of Nicholas Frances Brocke)
#577:  Idaho, Births and Christenings (Nicolao Brocke, father of Charles Joseph Brocke)
#578:  Washington Death Certificates (Nick Brocke, father of John I. Brocke)

Note:  I stopped looking after match #600.

As you can see, the search found 4 census records for John Nicholas Brocke, at least 5 other family tree records, and another 11 records where he was not the principal person.

This search did not find a birth record, a baptism record, a marriage record, a death record, a burial record, a 1910 U.S. Census record, or an 1880 U.S. Census record for Nicholas Brocke.

Obviously, any search depends on the information put into the search fields and the name variations used in the search algorithms, and the available record collections on the website.  There may be other records for this person on MyHeritage that have different name spellings, different birth information, etc.

FamilySearch used first and last name variants, and searched for a birth date and a death date, but not a birth or death place, on  This was comparable to the FamilySearch and searches.

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Tuesday's Tip: Attend, Online, the National Archives Virtual Genealogy Fair on October 21-22

This week's Tuesday's Tip is:  Attend, online, the National Archives Virtual Genealogy Fair on October 21-22.

The website for the National Archives (USA version) Virtual Genealogy Fair is  The list of topics is:

The site says:

This will be a live broadcast via YouTube so you can ask our genealogy experts questions at the end of their talks.  Speakers will include genealogy experts from National Archives locations across the nation.  Lectures will feature tips and techniques for using Federal records at the National Archives for genealogy research. Lectures are designed for experienced genealogists and novices. Recorded sessions will remain available online after the event.  There will be handouts available for the sessions at (but they are not there now).

1)  Day 1: Wednesday, October 21 (Eastern Time)
Session 1 at 10 a.m. ET
Introduction to
Genealogy at the National Archives by Claire Kluskens. Session 1 Captioning
Session 2 at 11 a.m. ET
Preserving Your Family Records:  Conversation and Questions by Mary Lynn Ritzenthaler. Session 2 Captioning
Session 3 at 12 p.m. ET
Personnel Records of the National Archives– St. Louis. By Bryan K. McGraw. Session 3 Captioning
Session 4 at 1 p.m. ET
It’s in the Cards: Finding Family Members in National Archives–St. Louis’ Card Series by Daria Labinsky & David HardinSession 4 Captioning
Session 5 at 2 p.m. ET
Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) Personnel Records by Ashley MattinglySession 5 Captioning

Day 2: Thursday, October 22 (Eastern Time)

Session 6 at 10 a.m. ET
Where’d They Go?  Finding Ancestral Migration Routes by Jean Nudd. Session 6 Captioning
Session 7 at 11 a.m. ET
Access to Archival Databases (AAD): Looking Down, From Above, to Look it Up!  by John LeGloahec.Session 7 Captioning
Session 8 at 12 p.m. ET
Finding Your World War I Veteran at the National Archives at St. Louis by Theresa Fitzgerald. Session 8 Captioning
Session 9 at 1 p.m. ET
Women in War Time Civilian Government Employment by Cara Moore. Session 9 Captioning
Session 10 at 2 p.m. ET
Broke, But Not Out of Luck: Exploring Bankruptcy Records for Genealogy Research by Jessica Hopkins. Session 10 Captioning
Note that the times are in U.S. Eastern Daylight Time, so subtract 3 hours for Pacific time, 2 hours for Mountain time, and one hour for Central time.

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