As a follow-u
p to my blog post Finding Record Hints for Persons in a Specific Database on Ancestry.com (15 October 2014), Russ Worthington has created a short
how-to video of the process he uses:
This covers how to find your own Ancestry Member Tree number (the 8-digits required) and how to find the Ancestry.com Database ID number (unique for each of Ancestry's databases - a 4-5 digit number). Good job, Russ!
Both of those are required in order to search Ancestry Hints for a specific database for persons in your Ancestry Member Tree.
1) To review: Once you find those two numbers, you can get a list of Ancestry Record Hints for persons in your AMT for the apecific database. The process to use is:
* Copy this URL to your browser address bar:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/xxxxxxxx/hints?src=hw&hf=record&hs=last&hdbid=dddd
* Click in the address field and edit it to:
** Substitute your AMT code number for xxxxxxxx
** Substitute the Database number you want for dddd
If there are more characters after the Database number, don't add them - add only the 4 or 5 Database numbers to the URL above.
For one of my Ancestry Member Trees and the Social Security Death Index, my URL is http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/33123910/hints?src=hw&hf=record&hs=last&hdbid=3693
Note: You cannot click on the link to my tree above - it will not work since you don't have Owner access to my Ancestry Member Tree.
I also recommend that you save the link to your tree and at least one Database number in your Bookmarks or Favorites on your computer. I put it in my Bookmarks Bar on Chrome so that I can find it easily. You could also put it in a document in Evernote or in your Dropbox (or other cloud service) folder so that you can find it when you are on another computer.
2) You can find the Ancestry.com Database ID number on the Database search page. For example, here is the Database search page for the U.s. World War I Draft Registration Cards (found from the Ancestry.com Card Catalog):
I highlighted the URL at the top of the page. The dbid=6482 for this database, as shown below:
The dbid number is what you write down and put into the URL described in 1) above.
2) I want to list some of the more popular (at least for me!) Ancestry.com database numbers here for my own use, and also for my readers' use:
* 1940 U.S. Census: dbid=2442
* 1930 U.S. Census: dbid=6224
* 1920 U.S. Census: dbid=6061
* 1910 U.S. Census: dbid=7884
* 1900 U.S. Census: dbid=7602
* 1880 U.S. Census: dbid=6742
* 1870 U.S. Census: dbid=7163
* 1860 U.S. Census: dbid=7667
* 1850 U.S. Census: dbid=8054
* Social Security Death Index: dbid=3693
* California Birth Index, 1905-1995: dbid=5247
* California Marriage Index, 1960-1985: dbid=1144
* California Death Index, 1940-1997: dbid=5180
* Texas Birth Index, 1902-1997: dbid=8781
* Texas Death Certificates, 1903-1982: dbid=2272
* Pennsylvania Death Certificates, 1906-1944: dbid=5164
* Pennsylvania and New Jersey Church and Town Records, 1708-1985: dbid=2451
* Massachusetts Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988: dbid=2495
* U.S. Quaker Meeting Records, 1681-1935: dbid=2189
* U.S. Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current: dbid=60525
* U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989: dbid=2469
* U.S. School Yearbooks, 1880-2012: dbid=1265
* New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957: dbid=7488
* U.s. Passport Applications, 1795-1925: dbid=1174
* U.S. World War I, Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918: dbid=6482
* U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942: dbid=1002
* U.s. World War II Army Enlistments, 1938-1946: dbid =8939
* U.S. World War II Navy Muster Rolls, 1938-1949: dbid=1143
* 1911 England Census: dbid=2352
* 1901 England Census: dbid=7814
* 1891 England Census: dbid=6598
* 1881 England Census: dbid=7572
* 1871 England Census: dbid=7619
* 1861 England Census: dbid=8767
* 1851 England Census: dbid=8860
* 1841 England Census: dbid=8978
* 1921 Canada Census: dbid=8991
* 1911 Canada Census: dbid=8947
* 1901 Canada Census: dbid=8826
* 1891 Canada Census: dbid=1274
* 1881 Canada Census: dbid=1577
* 1871 Canada Census: dbid=1578
* 1861 Canada Census: dbid=1570
* 1851 Canada Census: dbid=1061
Your choice of dbid number may be different - go find some and write them down for easy reference.
4) I am not sure that Ancestry.com ever finds ALL of the Record Hints for persons in your Ancestry Member Tree. In one of my trees, which is more mature than the other (it's been an AMT since about 2011), the People count is 7,389 and the Record Hints count is 18,575. This changes occasionally, and the number of Record Hints is reduced when I Attach or Ignore a Record Hint.
In another of my trees, added in August 2014, the number of People is 42,920 and the Record Hint count today is 20,619. That is up 2 Hints from about an hour ago. So Ancestry continues to add Hints. I found that I could spur the production of Record Hints by looking at an ancestor in my AMT in the Family View, wait for the Hints to be added (it sometimes takes 20-60 seconds), and then go back and do the next ancestor in my AMT.
I think the message here is that there will always be newly found Record Hints because Ancestry.com keeps adding databases and finding Hints from previously added databases. It seems like their search algorithms never stop. However, we may have to wait for a very recent "New" Ancestry.ycom database to add the Record Hints to our AMT persons.
Now I'm wondering how accurate these Record Hints are. I have looked at about 100 1940 and 1930 U.S. Census Hints over the past two days, adding content and source citations to my database. Of these, I think there were only 2 or 3 that were not correct - same name usually, but different family. That's encouraging!
5) Some readers may ask "Why don't you just do this person-by-person?" My answer is that this is a much more efficient method to "mine" databases for my persons of interest. I don't have to wade through 20-40 Hints for my persons of interest to find the 3 or 4 that are "real" records (and not indexed records) for my ancestral families. I can control what I add, and creating the source citations is much easier using the "source memory" function in my genealogy software.
The URL for this post is:
http://www.geneamusings.com/2014/10/more-on-finding-record-hints-for.html
Copyright (c) 2014, Randall J. Seaver
UPDATED: 18 October to correct one dbid and add 3.