Saturday, September 10, 2016

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun -- Interview a Relative who was at a Family Event

Calling all Genea-Musings Fans: 

 It's Saturday Night again - 
time for some more Genealogy Fun!!

Here is your assignment if you choose to play along (cue the Mission Impossible music, please!):

If you could go back into the time machine and re-attend one family event that you were present at as a child, and would love to return to interview your relatives, what event would that be?

2)  Tell us about it in a comment on this blog post, in a blog post of your own, or in a Facebook post.

My thanks to Jacquie Schattner for providing this challenge via email.

Here's mine:  

One of my earliest memories is from when I was 2 or 3 years old, and was probably at Christmas time.  I came into a room to say good night to everyone there, and the memory is of having to kiss a man with a bushy mustache.  I think it was probably my great-grandfather, Henry Austin Carringer (1853-1946).  

I don't know who else was in the room, but it was probably my grandparents, Lyle and Emily (Auble) Carringer, my great-grandmother, Georgianna (Kemp) Auble, and probably my mother.  There may have been others - the family visited occasionally with Georgianna's Kemp brother that lived in the Los Angeles area, and his children - visiting L.A. and hosting them in San Diego.  

My great-grandfather is the one I would love to interview because he lived 93 years, moved across the country - from Mercer County, Pennsylvania to Columbus City, Iowa to Boulder, Colorado, and finally to San Diego in 1887 on his honeymoon. He also saw technology improve from horse and buggy to railroads to automobiles to airplanes, and lived through four major wars (Civil War, Spanish-America, World War I, World War II).  He came to San Diego in 1887 when the population was less than 10,000, and the city grew to over 300,000 by 1946.

I would ask him about his parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles, siblings, and spouse, and their personalities and life events, about his childhood and friends, about his marriage to Della Smith and why they came to San Diego, how they traveled, where they lived, where he worked, how they bought the land with the houses I grew up in, how they grew the crops they did, and his attitudes toward life, love, politics, family, work, play, etc.  It might have been a long interview!


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Surname Saturday - Mary LNU (married Follansbee - England to colonial New England)

It's Surname Saturday, and I'm "counting down" my Ancestral Name List each week.  

I am in the 8th great-grandmothers and I'm up to Ancestor #1463, who is Mary LNU  (1639-1677) 
[Note: the earlier great-grandmothers and 8th great-grandfathers have been covered in earlier posts].

My ancestral line back through one generation of this LNU family line is:

1. Randall J. Seaver

2. Frederick Walton Seaver (1911-1983)
3. Betty Virginia Carringer (1919-2002)

4. Frederick Walton Seaver (1876-1942)
5. Alma Bessie Richmond (1882-1962)

10.  Thomas Richmond (1848-1917)
11.  Julia E. White (1848-1913)

22.  Henry Arnold White (1824-1885)
23.  Amy Frances Oatley (1826-1864)

44.  Jonathan White (1805-1850)
45.  Miranda Wade (1804-1850)

90.  Simon Wade (1767-1857)
91.  Phebe Horton (1772-1820)

182.  Nathaniel Horton (1730-1819)
183.  Sarah Pray (174-1820)

364.  John Horton (1696-1796)
365.  Mary Chase (1695-1732)

730.  Thomas Chase (1654-1734)
731.  Rebecca Follansbee (1658-1711)

1462.  Thomas Follansbee, born about 1637 in England; died 10 June 1725 in Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States.  He married before 1658 in probably Portsmouth, Rockingham, New Hampshire, United States.
1463.  Mary LNU, born about 1639; died before 1677 in Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States.

Children of Thomas Follansbee and Mary are:
*  Rebecca Follansbee (1658-1711), married 1677 Thomas Chase (1654-1734).
*  Mary Follansbee (1667-1736), married (1) 1686 Robert Pike; (2) 1691 Robert Hook.
*  Anne Follansbee (1668-1708), married 1684 Moses Chase (1663-1743).
*  Thomas Follansbee (1670-1755), married (1) 1694 Abigail Bond (1660-1734); (2) 1735 Mary Webster (1699-????).


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Friday, September 9, 2016

A Helpful Richman Autosomal DNA Match

I received an message last week from CB who alerted me to our autosomal DNA match on AncestryDNA.  It is 13 cM on one segment, in the 5th to 8th Cousin category.  CB said that she also has a Richman ancestor in Hilperton, Wiltshire, England in the early 19th century.  Her earliest known Richman was William Richman (1806-1892), who married Grace Powell (1809-1891) in 1826 in Trowbridge.

My earliest Richman is my 3rd great-grandfather, John Richman (1788-1867) of Hilperton, who married Ann Marshman in 1811.  I don't know John Richman's parents.  Over the past 28 years, I have been collecting Richman records in Wiltshire, including a review of many parish registers and transcripts of parish registers and Bishop's Transcripts.  I did research at the Wiltshire County Record Office in Trowbridge in 1993, and visited Hilperton church on the vacation/research trip.  I have several sets of "candidate" Richman families in Hilperton that my John may be a member of.

So CB and I have a common surname at least six generations back in Hilperton who is probably a Richman.  I had her William Richman (1806-1892) in my database, married to Grace Powell (1809-1891), but I had only 4 children for the family based on the parish records.  I also had a second William Richman and Grace family with 9 more children, some of whom are in the parish records.  I had these families separate because the 1851 Census had William born in 1816, not 1806, and Grace born in 1819, not 1809.  The family was not in the 1841 Census, and I had not searched the 1861 and later census records for the family.  It is now apparent to me that this is one family, and that the 1851 ages were about 10 years off for some reason.  It is possible that there are two mothers named Grace for all of these children, but the 13 children were born at 2-3 year intervals (two sets of twins) between 1830 and 1851, plus another one born in 1858.  If Grace Powell is the mother of all 14 children, then she had the last one at about age 50.

There are three William Richmans (born 1796, 1806 and 1809) in Hilperton in the 1841 to 1881 time frame - the 1796 William died in 1852, the 1809 William died in 1884, and the 1806 William died in 1892.

CB and I compared notes and I was able to offer a baptism record for William Richman in Trowbridge St. James on 2 November 1806, with parents Thomas and Martha (Martin) Richman, who married in 1804 in Trowbridge.  Thomas Richman was born in 1775 in Hilperton to John and Mary (Parsons) Richman.  The John (1756-1807) and Mary (Parsons) Richman family has a son John baptized in 1803 (when his mother was age 53), but there is a "hole" in children's ages between 1787 and 1796 - this John might have been born in about 1789 and not baptized until 1803.   So that is a possible link for me.

I also have John Richman (1756-1807) parents names - John (1730-1807) and Mary (Crabb) Richman of Hilperton, so CB may have three more generations of Richmans from the Hilperton and Trowbridge records.

John and Mary (Parsons) Richman are CB's 6th great-grandparents, and they might be my 4th great-grandparents, so we are in the right DNA ballpark.

There are several other Richman families having children in the 1785-1792 time frame that might have had my John Richman.  My John Richman (1788-1867) may be a child of one of the other descendants of John Richman (1730-1807).  Or not!

I am fairly certain that almost all of the Richman persons in Hilperton parish records between 1720 and 1800 are related in some way, but the parish records are fairly sparse during this time frame.  Marriages seem to be well covered, but baptisms are not complete, nor are burials.  It is probable that there were second and third marriages for many of the Richman males I have in my database.

Here is the first page of a RootsMagic Descendants Report for John Richman (1730-1807) - it is probably quite incomplete, but it contains the information I have in my database at this time for CB's line:

In the latest twist of this DNA saga, CB has another autosomal DNA match with AB who descends from Joseph Richman (1779-1865), who is a brother of Thomas Richman (1775-????).

CB resides in England, and plans to visit the Wiltshire record offices soon to try to obtain more information about these Richman folks.

The only records I have reviewed in Wiltshire for the Richman and associated families are the parish registers, Bishop's Transcripts, Civil Registry index, census records, burial index, and probate records. My Findmypast subscription has been very useful.   I know that there are other resources, but I need to search for their location and then go search them.  The Hilperton church vestry records might be full of information if they are still extant and available to review.


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New London Records Available To Search This Findmypast Friday, 9 September 2016

I received this from Findmypast today:


New London Records Available To Search This Findmypast Friday

To commemorate the Great Fire of London's 350th anniversary, over 3.5 million historic London records are available to search this Findmypast Friday, including:

Brand New Records

London Post Office Directories 1842, 1851 and 1861, Browse

Browse over 1.5 million records from three London Post Office Directories. The directories include lists of traders, bankers, people employed by the crown, officials, lawyers as well as full street directories. They are presented as a browse search, which allows you to select a publication and browse through it from beginning to end.

The collection includes various lists such as a commercial directory, a trade's directory, a parliamentary directory, a street directory, and a court directory. They list names alphabetically by surname and allow you to discover your ancestor's occupation, business address, or home address.

Westminster, Poor Law and Parish Administration

Westminster, Poor Law and Parish Administration contains over 1.7 million records including bastardy papers, admissions, examinations, pauper records, valuations, work house records and more.

This collection houses several distinct types of document and the amount of available information will vary depending on the type and date of the records. Both transcripts and images of the original documents are provided and the collection can be searched by name, year, place, record type and additional keywords.

City Of London, Gunmakers' Company Freedoms and Admissions, 1656-1936

City Of London, Gunmakers' Company Freedoms and Admissions, 1656-1936, contains over 5,000 records that allow you to find out if your ancestor joined the Worshipful Company of Gunmakers. The records consist of registers of freeman's admissions and lists of liverymen that will reveal when they were admitted to the company, how they were admitted, and the name of the master they trained under. Images of the original documents can provide you with even further information about your ancestor such as their relationship to their master, exact date of admission, and full address.

The Worshipful Company of Gunmakers was founded in 1637, after decades of arguments over which of the city's livery companies would regulate the emerging trade of gunmaking. Guns were not seen as an essential element of warfare until the defeat of the Spanish armada in 1588 when sound cannons and good tactics enabled the small, quick British fleet to cut a swath through the lumbering Spaniards. After that, the supply of guns became a matter of national importance.


Thames & Medway Baptisms

Over 15,000 records from the parishes of St Alphege, Greenwich, St John's Wellington Street, Woolwich and Cliffe at Hoo have been added to our collection of Thames & Medway Baptisms. The collection now contains over 335,000 records and covers the period 1721 to 1970. The areas covered include, among others, Brentford, Deptford, Ealing, Greenwich and Rotherhithe.

Each records consists of a transcript of the original source material. The detail in each transcript may vary, but most will include your ancestors name, birth date, baptism date, location, parent's names and any additional notes.

Thames & Medway Burials

Over 10,000 records from the parishes of St Alphege, Greenwich and Cliffe at Hoo have been added to our collection of Thames & Medway Burials. The collection now contains over 186,000 records and covers Middlesex, Essex, Surrey and Kent for the period 1702 to 1997. The records also include prisoners from the Woolwich prison ships and the names of over 1,200 seamen who died on the Seaman's Hospital Society's hospital ships near Greenwich.

Each record consists of a transcript of the original source material. The amount of information listed may vary but most will include a combination of your ancestor's burial date, age at death, residence and burial place.

Westminster burials

Discover if your English ancestor was buried in Westminster with over 105,000 new records. The new additions cover a number of Westminster municipal cemeteries and will reveal when your ancestor was born, when they died and where they were laid to rest. Westminster burials now contains over 1.5 million records dating back to 1538.

Each record provides an image of the original register held by the City of Westminster Archives Centre and a transcript of the vital information found in the register. The details in each vary for a number of reasons: the age of the record, how much was known about the deceased person and the physical condition of the original register. Some registers may even reveal whether your ancestors was buried in consecrated or un-consecrated ground, whether they were cremated and the cost of their burial.

London, Docklands and East End Baptisms, 1558-1933

Over 24,000 records from the parish of St Mary, Whitechapel have been added to our collection of London, Docklands and East End Baptisms. The collection now contains over 668,000 records from 27 East End Parishes.

Each record consists of a transcript created by Docklands Ancestors that will reveal your ancestors birth date, baptism date, parent's names, address and the location of their baptism.

Greater London Burial Index

Over 99,000 new records have been added to the Greater London Burials Index. The Index comprises over 1.6 million names from more than 226 parishes in the Greater London area and includes records from both Anglican and non-conformist parishes. It also includes the City of London Burials, Middlesex Memorial Inscriptions, Middlesex & City of London Burials Index and the South London Burials Index.

Each record comprises a transcript of the original index. The amount of information listed varies, but the records usually include a combination of the following information about your ancestor; full name (including maiden name if female) birth year, death year, burial date, occupation, denomination, relationship and address.


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