Saturday, July 5, 2014

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun -- Your Father's Mother's Patrilineal Line

Calling all Genea-Musings Fans: 

 It's Saturday Night again - 
time for some more Genealogy Fun!!

Here is your assignment if you choose to play along (cue the Mission Impossible music, please!):

What was your father's mother's name?

2) What is your father's mother's patrilineal line? That is, her father's father's father's ... back to the most distant male ancestor in that line?

3) Can you identify male sibling(s) of your father's mother, and any living male descendants from those male sibling(s)? If so, you have a candidate to do a Y-DNA test on that  patrilineal line. If not, you may have to find male siblings, and their descendants, of the next generation back, or even further.

4)  Tell us about it in your own blog post, or in a comment on this post, or in a Facebook or Google Plus post.

Here's mine:

1)  My father's mother was Alma Bessie (Richmond) Seaver (1882-1962).  She was born in Killingly, Windham County, Connecticut to Thomas Richmond (1848-1917) and Julia (White) Richmond (1848-1913).

2)  Alma Bessie's patrilineal line was:

*  Thomas Richmond (1848-1917), who married Julia E. White (1848-1913)

*  James Richman (1821-1912), married Hannah Rich (1824-1911)

*  John Richman (1788-1867), married Ann Marshman (1784-1856).

3)  Alma Bessie Richmond had five brothers:

*  Frederick J. Richmond (1870-1875), so he had no offspring.

*  Everett Glens Richmond (1875-1917), married Ida May Fiske (1878-1942), and they had a daughter Juliet and a son Everett Richmond (1913-1977).  I don't know if Everett married or had children - this is one to follow up on!

*  Charles Percival Richmond (1880-1910), married Jessie Louise Brown (1882-1947), and they had one son, William B. Richmond (1909-2003).  He married, but they had no children.

*  Edwin Thomas Richmond (1883-1935), married Alice Bertha Corey (1884-1979).  They had one daughter, Helen Corey Richmond (1907-2001).

*  James Henry Richmond (1886-1913), married Ethel Rosetta Judson (1890-1966).  They had one daughter, Anna Richmond.

So from Bessie's brothers, there is only one real Richmond Y-DNA candidate!

Thomas Richmond (1848-1917) had three brothers from the James and Hannah (Rich) Richman family:

*  James Richmond (1849-1929), married Sarah Bigwood (1855-1932).  They had four sons, Oscar James Richmond (1881-1942) - no known children, another avenue for research, Chester Arthur Richmond (1883-1960) - one son, now deceased, with four sons; Edgar Valentine Richmond (1886-1943) - one son, with two sons (one of whom I've corresponded with); Leon Henry Richmond (1888-1953) - with one son, who has two sons.

*  John Henry Richmond (1865-1947), who married Mary Ann Ramset (1866-1954).  They had one son, Thomas H. M. Richmond (1902-1987), who had three sons, one of whom I've met, now deceased.  This is another potential research area.

*  Charles Edwin Richmond (1866-1951), married Lavinia Guerten (1870-1936).  They had three sons, Charles Lloyd Richmond (1898-1968) - who had one son who had one son who had one son;  Louis A. Richmond (1902-1962) - married but I don't know of children; Ralph Albert Richmond (1908-1958) - married, two known daughters, no known sons.

There are more research opportunities through these Richmond males.  I already have one known autosomal DNA match and contact through one of them.  

4)  I just did!  And will.

Why go through this?  My main reason is to identify potential Y-DNA donors to obtain the Y-DNA signature of the Richmond line.  It may be a way to connect John Richmond (1788-1867) to a set of parents.

These male Richmonds are my uncles, and first, second or third cousins, and therefore we share a significant amount of autosomal DNA.  Perhaps I can identify which of my SNPs came from the Richmondl ine.

Lastly, they provide research targets to identify more descendants of my Richman ancestors.  You never know what you might find!

Copyright (c) 2014, Randall J. Seaver


Elise Ann Wormuth said...

I joined in the fun --

Unknown said...

I joined in to!

GeneGinny said...

Good challenge, Randy. Unfortunately, I didn't come up with any Y-DNA candidates.

Carrie Smith said...

I joined in also :)

Eileen said...

Excellent assignment, Randy. Here is my post:

Dana Leeds said...

I uncovered some new information while doing this challenge & also realized I need to ask my uncle some questions! My post is here:

Mel said...

Here's my entry for this week. First one I've had a chance to do in awhile. Thanks for the challenge Randy!

Lisa S. Gorrell said...

Good exercise. I found two possible Sullivan men.

Michael F Harris said...

My attempt

James Alexander Knighton said...

1) My father's mother was Rosemary (Rodgers) Knighton (1942-2013). She was born in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, England to Robert Rodgers (1914-1998) and Maizee Glenuster (Feaviour) Rodgers (1920-2003).

2) Rosemary's patrilineal line was:

* Robert Rodgers (1914-1998), who married Maizee Glenuster Feaviour (1920-2003)

* Robert Rodgers (1891-1971), married Mary O'Hanlon (1891-1980)

* Patrick Rodgers (1857-1918), married Margaret Irving (1859-1925).

* Robert Rodgers (1833-1911), married Margaret Duffy (1830-1900)

3) Rosemary Rodgers had two brothers, who are currently living.

Bill West said...

Here's mine: