In my post FTM 2011 Citations Uploaded to Ancestry.com yesterday, I uploaded a Family Tree Maker 2011 database directly into an Ancestry.com Member Tree using the "Share" button in FTM 2011.
I wanted to see if a GEDCOM file created by Family Tree Maker 2011 and uploaded to an Ancestry.com Member Tree has any problems with the Source citations - those created by both Template sources and Free-form sources.
I used the same database with both Free-form and template sources for the same Facts, exported a GEDCOM 5.5 file to my computer files, then imported the GEDCOM file to Ancestry.com.
The resulting Person page for Isaac Seaver looks like this:
It looks like the same screen in yesterday's post, except the Media Items did not transfer (as expected) using the GEDCOM transfer.
Here's the "Template Source" screen for the Birth Fact:
The Source information shown is:
* Title: Systematic History Fund, Vital Records of Westminster, Massachusetts, to the End of the Year 1849 [template]
* Author: [empty]
* Publisher: [empty]
* Publisher Location: [empty]
* Publisher Date: [empty]
* Call Number: [empty]
* Notes: Systematic History Fund. Vital Records of Westminster, Massachusetts, to the End of the Year 1849. Worcester, Mass.: F.P. Rice, 1908.
That is exactly what was transferred in yesterday's test.
The source citation itself, in the "Notes" field, if a "Footnote" citation, needs parentheses around the Publication data, according to the Evidence! Explained "Basic Book" models. The citation is fine as a "Bibliography" entry per EE models.
The "Free-form Source" for the Birth Fact is:
The Source information shown is:
* Title: Systematic History Fund, Vital Records of Westminster, Massachusetts, to the End of the Year 1849
* Author: Systematic History Fund
* Publisher: Name: Name: Worcester, Mass., F.P. Rice, 1908;;
* Publisher Location: [empty]
* Publisher Date: [empty]
* Call Number: [empty]
* Notes: Systematic History Fund. Vital Records of Westminster, Massachusetts, to the End of the Year 1849. Worcester, Mass.: F.P. Rice, 1908.
This information is identical to the Free-form source information from the previous post yesterday.
Note that it has exactly the same "mangled" data - the "Name: Name" words in the Publisher field, and the ";;" at the end of the Publisher field. The source citation itself, in the "Notes" field, needs parentheses around the Publication data, according to the Evidence! Explained models for a "Basic Book" Footnote..
The list of all of the source citations in the Ancestry.com Member Tree file looks like this:
Note that this list shows only the "Title" of the Source (which is the "Title" in the Family Tree Maker 2011 Source List - which has no capability for a shorthand source as discussed here). and the Source Detail.
It appears that there is no difference in the Source Citations imported and displayed in an Ancestry Member Tree between uploading a Family Tree Maker 2011 file directly or importing the file using a GEDCOM file. Neither perfectly matches Evidence! Explained models.
Now what about a RootsMagic 4 GEDCOM export and import to an Ancestry Member Tree? The Seaver Source Citation Saga continues... endless, isn't it? There is a reason!
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Have you figured out a quick way to convert these mangled sources back to their original format? I have over 20,000 names, and whenever in the past I have had to use a back-up or a GEDCOM because of some problem, all the source data gets put in the publisher field, the field names keep replicating, and the call number is lost.
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