After Judy G. Russell's post on Monday, titled Terms of Use: findmypast.com, I was concerned that my use of screen shots and document images obtained from the FindMyPast.com's website were prohibited. I sent an email to FindMyPast.com requesting clarification of some specific areas of concern for me (and others).
Brian Speckart, Marketing Manager of North America for Brightsolid Online Publishing Company Inc., provided a link to the updated FindMyPast.com Terms and Conditions page at https://www.findmypast.com/content/terms-and-conditions. I appreciate that Brian and the Brightsolid team revised the T&Cs quickly and to the benefit of most researchers, especially professionals and geneabloggers!
Judy G. Russell highlighted the revisions as they apply to professionals and geneabloggers in her post Update: FindMyPast.com Amends Terms on The Legal Genealogist blog.
I encourage every subscriber to read the revised Terms and Conditions at https://www.findmypast.com/content/terms-and-conditions.
Here were the questions that I asked Brian about in my email on Monday, and my interpretation of the revised T&Cs as they apply to my specific questions. I am not an attorney, so my interpretations may be wrong; if so, I hope that FindMyPast.com will correct any misinterpretations I have:
1) Can I use a screen capture of the FindMyPast.com website pages, or a snippet (magnified view of part of the image) of the web page, which may contain all or some of a record, on my blog? If not, why not?
My interpretation: It is permissible to use a screen capture of a FindMyPast website page, including all or part of the image of a document. I am unclear about the snippet.
2) Can I use an image of a record (e.g., census page, parish register, etc.) saved from FindMyPast on my blog? If not, why not?
My interpretation: I cannot use an image of a document or record, that I saved to my computer, on my blog without their written permission.
3) Can I use the image of a record saved from FindMyPast and attach it to a person or source in my genealogy software program (e.g., RootsMagic)? If not, why not?
My interpretation: This was not addressed. My guess is that I can attach the downloaded record, as long as it was for my personal use, to a person or a source in my genealogy software program.
4) Can I use the image of a record saved from FindMyPast and attach it to a person or a source in an online family tree (e.g., Ancestry Member Tree, Geni.com, MyHeritage, FMP, etc.)? If not, why not.
My interpretation: I cannot "share" a downloaded and attached document image in an online family tree. It's unclear if I can attach the document image to a FindMyPast.com family tree.
5) If I am not permitted to do any or all of the above according to the T&Cs, will FindMyPast.com grant me permission to do them? If so, which ones will FMP grant me permission to do? Or do I have to request permission in each instance?
My interpretation: I need to request written permission for every document image that I want to post to my blog, or put in a periodical or book publication, or add to an online family tree.
6) Since I have already posted some screen captures on my blog, will FMP permit me to remove them from my blog posts without any penalty if that is not permitted?
My interpretation: FindMyPast.com now permits screen captures, so this is not an issue.
7) Who owns the copyright or database rights to the England and Wales Census Record images, the parish register index and images, the images from the Civil Registration books, etc.? Are those spelled out anywhere when a user accesses the database?
My interpretation: Other organizations and individuals own the intellectual property rights to the document images. The property rights holders are usually identified on most records.
8) Why are there limitations on posting images to a blog, or including them in a book? Do the holders of the copyright for the image require this?
My interpretation: No direct response here, but it's implied in 7) above!
Things are not "wonderful" for professional genealogists who are performing client work. The FindMyPast Terms and Conditions require the use of "Pay As You Go" Credits for client work. The Credits for the World Subscription offer was $13.95 for 100 credits. Most record transcriptions, and most record images cost between 5 and 30 credits. Therefore, it may relatively expensive (much more than $60 a year) to do extensive online research for clients at FindMyPast.com.
Another piece of good news today - the $4.95 per month World Subscription offer is still available. If that interests you, I encourage you to subscribe immediately because the company set aside only so many at this special price. The special offer may end at any time!
What do my readers think? Are my interpretations correct? Please comment! also identify other questions that pertain to these issues.
My thanks to Judy Russell for highlighting this issue on her blog and on Facebook.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2012/08/findmypastcoms-terms-and-conditions.html
Copyright (c) 2012, Randall J. Seaver
Welcome to my genealogy blog. Genea-Musings features genealogy research tips and techniques, genealogy news items and commentary, genealogy humor, San Diego genealogy society news, family history research and some family history stories from the keyboard of Randy Seaver (of Chula Vista CA), who thinks that Genealogy Research Is really FUN! Copyright (c) Randall J. Seaver, 2006-2024.
Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Dear Randy: Can you walk me through using FTM 2012 to input 1940 census data?
Reader Brian asked:
"Based on your posts - I'm planning to start 'sourcing' all my 1940 Census data based on your 13 April 2012 Census Source Citation post. I'm used to bringing in (merging) the data from Ancestry.com into Family Tree Maker 2012 - I guess this brings in Ancestry.com's source format.
My response to Brian was:
Since you will be capturing the 1940 US Census image in FTM 2012 by syncing with Ancestry.com, I recommend the following:
1) The census image source citation provided by Ancestry.com will look something like this (from the census match summary page):
Ancestry.com. 1940 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.
Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1940. T627, 4,643 rolls.
Year: 1940; Census Place: Leominster, Worcester, Massachusetts; Roll: T627_1651; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 14-181.
2) That is not, of course, Evidence! Explained quality. You will want to note the elements of that citation that are useful to you (the place name, the ED, the page, the NARA film and roll numbers).
3) In FTM 2012, copy the Ancestry.com citation to your clipboard.
4) The Fact for the 1940 Census citation should be in the list for your specific person (ancestor?) [People workspace, Person Tab] - highlight that Fact and click on the Source tab (right-hand panel). The Ancestry source should show below the Source tab.
5) To create an EE-quality source for the Fact, click on the New button and the "Add Source citation" window should open.
6) In the "Add Source citation" window, click on the"New" button to the right of the top line - the"Add Source" window should open.
7) Put your cursor in the top line and type "1940" and two templates titles should be seen - 1880 to 1940 Population Schedule by Census Year and Location; and by Census Year. Your choice. If you choose the first one, you will have to create many master source citations - one for each State/County/Roll Number, and the ED/page/etc goes in the Citation. If you choose the second, then you will have to put the State/County/Roll Number and the other information in the citation. I always choose the second one because I will end up with hundreds of citations for different counties/roll numbers and it's hard to find them in FTM 2012 when I want to use them again.
8) After you fill in the Add Source template, click on OK and then add to the Add Source Citation Template. Click on OK and you're done. I usually paste the provided citation information in the "Citation Text" field so that I don't have to write it down, and can type the correct info into the "Citation Detail" field. [Then I delete the "Citation Text" information]
One of my source citations using the FTM 2012 Census Year and Location template looks like this:
1940 U.S. census, population schedule, Massachusetts, Worcester, Leominster: Enumeration District 14-181, Sheet 9-A, Household #202, Frederick Seaver household, accessed 12 April 2012; NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 1651; digital image, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com).
The same source citation using the FTM 2012 census Year template looks like this:
1940 U.S. Census, Population Schedule; NARA Microfilm Publication T627 (Provo, Utah, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com), 2012), Worcester County, Massachusetts, Leominster: Enumeration District 14-181, Sheet 9-A, Household #202, Frederick Seaver household, accessed 12 April 2012, Roll 1651.
Neither is exactly EE standard, but they are close enough (FTM 2012 doesn't produce "exact" EE source citations, as discussed previously). The red part is in the Master Source fields, the blue part is in the Source Citation fields.
Here is a 1940 U.S. Census record source citation in Evidence! Explained format for comparison purposes (as best I can do!):
1940 United States Census, Worcester County, Massachusetts, population schedule, Leominster: Enumeration District 14-181, Sheet 9-A, Household #202, Frederick Seaver household; digital image, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 12 April 2012), citing National Archives Microfilm Publication T627, Roll 1651.
9) The next time you want to use the master source, just type "1940" into the"Add Source" window and choose the one you created previously. Then you'll only have to fill in the Source citation fields.
10) I would delete the Ancestry.com generated source citation for the 1940 Census Fact in order to keep my source citations consistent with EE standards. You can do this by highlighting the Source citation that you want to delete (in the right-hand panel), then click on the "Unlink" icon on the Source tab icon row (don't click on "Delete" at the top right of the screen!), and say "Yes" to unlink it from the Fact and then "Yes" to remove it from the tree.
It's fairly laborious, but it works. You might checkout Russ Worthington's Family Tree Maker User blog at http://ftmuser.blogspot.com - Russ has his own methods of doing this that may be better explained on his blog.
Thank you to Brian for asking the question. I hope that he has been successful at creating source citations in Family Tree Maker 2012.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2012/08/dear-randy-can-you-walk-me-through.html
Copyright (c) 2012, Randall J. Seaver
Updated: 3 p.m. Added the EE quality source citation for comparison purposes.
"Based on your posts - I'm planning to start 'sourcing' all my 1940 Census data based on your 13 April 2012 Census Source Citation post. I'm used to bringing in (merging) the data from Ancestry.com into Family Tree Maker 2012 - I guess this brings in Ancestry.com's source format.
"Can you walk me (others) through the best steps
within FTM 2012 to follow to input the 1940 Census data for each
field, e.g. name, birth, residence, etc which incorporates the 1940 Census Source Citation
format?"
My response to Brian was:
Since you will be capturing the 1940 US Census image in FTM 2012 by syncing with Ancestry.com, I recommend the following:
1) The census image source citation provided by Ancestry.com will look something like this (from the census match summary page):
Ancestry.com. 1940 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.
Year: 1940; Census Place: Leominster, Worcester, Massachusetts; Roll: T627_1651; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 14-181.
2) That is not, of course, Evidence! Explained quality. You will want to note the elements of that citation that are useful to you (the place name, the ED, the page, the NARA film and roll numbers).
3) In FTM 2012, copy the Ancestry.com citation to your clipboard.
4) The Fact for the 1940 Census citation should be in the list for your specific person (ancestor?) [People workspace, Person Tab] - highlight that Fact and click on the Source tab (right-hand panel). The Ancestry source should show below the Source tab.
5) To create an EE-quality source for the Fact, click on the New button and the "Add Source citation" window should open.
6) In the "Add Source citation" window, click on the"New" button to the right of the top line - the"Add Source" window should open.
7) Put your cursor in the top line and type "1940" and two templates titles should be seen - 1880 to 1940 Population Schedule by Census Year and Location; and by Census Year. Your choice. If you choose the first one, you will have to create many master source citations - one for each State/County/Roll Number, and the ED/page/etc goes in the Citation. If you choose the second, then you will have to put the State/County/Roll Number and the other information in the citation. I always choose the second one because I will end up with hundreds of citations for different counties/roll numbers and it's hard to find them in FTM 2012 when I want to use them again.
8) After you fill in the Add Source template, click on OK and then add to the Add Source Citation Template. Click on OK and you're done. I usually paste the provided citation information in the "Citation Text" field so that I don't have to write it down, and can type the correct info into the "Citation Detail" field. [Then I delete the "Citation Text" information]
One of my source citations using the FTM 2012 Census Year and Location template looks like this:
1940 U.S. census, population schedule, Massachusetts, Worcester, Leominster: Enumeration District 14-181, Sheet 9-A, Household #202, Frederick Seaver household, accessed 12 April 2012; NARA microfilm publication T627, roll 1651; digital image, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com).
The same source citation using the FTM 2012 census Year template looks like this:
1940 U.S. Census, Population Schedule; NARA Microfilm Publication T627 (Provo, Utah, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com), 2012), Worcester County, Massachusetts, Leominster: Enumeration District 14-181, Sheet 9-A, Household #202, Frederick Seaver household, accessed 12 April 2012, Roll 1651.
Neither is exactly EE standard, but they are close enough (FTM 2012 doesn't produce "exact" EE source citations, as discussed previously). The red part is in the Master Source fields, the blue part is in the Source Citation fields.
Here is a 1940 U.S. Census record source citation in Evidence! Explained format for comparison purposes (as best I can do!):
1940 United States Census, Worcester County, Massachusetts, population schedule, Leominster: Enumeration District 14-181, Sheet 9-A, Household #202, Frederick Seaver household; digital image, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 12 April 2012), citing National Archives Microfilm Publication T627, Roll 1651.
9) The next time you want to use the master source, just type "1940" into the"Add Source" window and choose the one you created previously. Then you'll only have to fill in the Source citation fields.
10) I would delete the Ancestry.com generated source citation for the 1940 Census Fact in order to keep my source citations consistent with EE standards. You can do this by highlighting the Source citation that you want to delete (in the right-hand panel), then click on the "Unlink" icon on the Source tab icon row (don't click on "Delete" at the top right of the screen!), and say "Yes" to unlink it from the Fact and then "Yes" to remove it from the tree.
It's fairly laborious, but it works. You might checkout Russ Worthington's Family Tree Maker User blog at http://ftmuser.blogspot.com - Russ has his own methods of doing this that may be better explained on his blog.
Thank you to Brian for asking the question. I hope that he has been successful at creating source citations in Family Tree Maker 2012.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2012/08/dear-randy-can-you-walk-me-through.html
Copyright (c) 2012, Randall J. Seaver
Updated: 3 p.m. Added the EE quality source citation for comparison purposes.
Comparison of Girls and Boys Names in 1940 and 2011
Beth Cook at FindMyPast.com passed this press release to me yesterday, which I found interesting.
Girlsʼ names change 7 times more than boysʼ since 1940 Census: study by findmypast.com
Baby names reflect revolution in womenʼs role
(and maybe also Darryl Hannahʼs mermaid in Splash)
“Madison” (the biggest riser since 1940) is the new “Betty” (the biggest faller)
“Names can be to genealogy what carbon-dating is to archaeology”
Los Angeles, CA – July 31st, 2012: The most popular baby names for American girls at the time of the 1940 U.S. Census have changed since then seven times more than the top names for boys the same year, reveals a study by the genealogy website, findmypast.com.
This striking difference between the fortunes of popular girls’ and boys’ names may reflect social changes over the last 72 years, says Brian Speckart, spokesperson for findmypast.com, which conducted the study to mark this year’s recent release of the records from the 1940 Census.
“Women’s role in society has seen a revolution since 1940”, says Speckart. “Men’s role has changed too, though far less.” New names may have helped women forge new lives.
Findmypast.com researchers analyzed the records of the U.S. Social Security Administration, which has recorded baby names, based on Social Security applications for births, since 1879.
The top 10 girls' names in 1940, they found, have fallen by an average of over 700 [707] places in the popularity rankings since – nearly seven times as far as the top 10 boys’ names the same year, which have dropped an average of barely 100 [104] places.
None of the top 10 girls’ names in 1940 even make today’s top 100. Three of the top 10 names from 1940 (Betty, Carol, Shirley) have now dropped entirely from the top 1,000, compared to none of the equivalent boys’ names. Betty, Carol and Shirley are now the names of deceased grandmothers and aged aunts – the names that time forgot.
“Baby names are like period pieces”, says Josh Taylor, genealogist for findmypast.com. “Some recall a particular era, which can make them clues when researching family history. So, you can sometimes guess roughly when someone was born simply by their first name. In such cases, names can be to genealogy what carbon-dating is to archaeology.”
This is far truer, however, of girls’ names than of boys’. Seven of the top 10 boys’ names from 1940 are still in the top 100, while three (James, David, William) remain in the top 20, and one (William) makes the top three. William is the only top 10 name from 1940 that is still in the top 10, while last year’s royal wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton seems to have further boosted its ranking.
Only one of the 10 most popular names from 1940 (Mary) is even in the top 500 today, while ALL of the top boys’ names from 1940 are.
“We are becoming the men we wanted to marry”, said the feminist Gloria Steinem, reflecting on the changing career choices of women. “In some cases”, she might have added, “we are even taking their first names.”
Madison is today the eighth most popular baby name for girls born in the U.S. Yet, it was originally a surname (as in James Madison, fourth president of the U.S.) and then for many years a boys’ first name, until it faded from use in the 1950s.
Now, Madison is the new Betty. While Betty is the biggest faller in the girls’ name leagues since 1940, Madison, along with Mia and Abigail, is the biggest riser. But while Betty was the name of a housewife and cake-baker, Madison is a “power” name – a name with its own shoulder-pads and parking space in the executive lot.
“American women used to have names like Betty and – like Betty Draper in the TV series, Mad Men – marry men with jobs on Madison Avenue”, says Joshua Taylor. “Now, women are themselves called Madison and have top jobs – on Madison Avenue and beyond.”
In fact, what suddenly made Madison a popular name for girls was the 1984 movie, Splash, in which Daryl Hannah played a mermaid who adopted the name “Madison” in human form after spotting a street sign for Madison Avenue.
Most of the top 10 ten girls’ names today were rare in 1940, while at least three (Madison, Mia, Abigail) did not even rank in the top 1,000. “In 1940 you were as likely to meet a girl named Madison as a boy named Sue”, says Taylor. Seven of today’s top 10 girls’ names have risen over 500 places since 1940, compared to just four of the boys’.
Not only do popular names for girls change more rapidly over time but girls’ names are also more varied, with the 10 most popular ones accounting for a smaller share of all girls than the equivalent figure for boys. Meanwhile, at least half of the 10 most popular boys’ names today have biblical or Hebrew origins – more than in 1940 – compared to one (or arguably two) of the girls’ names.
Gender differences in naming may, even now, reflect different parental goals for sons and daughters, remarked Nicholas Christenfeld and Britta Larsen of UC San Diego, in a recent paper in The Psychologist.
“By avoiding the most common and old-fashioned names, parents may enhance their daughters’ claims to be young and exotic, and thereby increase their mate value”, suggest Christenfeld and Larsen. “In choosing more common and historically popular names for their boys, parents may signal that their sons are mature and established, and so help them to attract young, exotic mates.”
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2012/08/comparison-of-girls-and-boys-names-in.html
(Not So) Wordless Wednesday - Post 216: Aunt Geraldine at 23
I am posting photographs from my family collections for (Not So) Wordless Wednesday (you know me, I can't go wordless!).
Here is a photograph from the Geraldine Seaver Remley family collection handed down from my aunt in 2007 after her passing.
This is a photograph of Geraldine Seaver (1917-2007) in 1940, in an unknown place. It appears that the smudges on the right side of the picture are fingerprints, perhaps left by someone's sticky fingers (I hope they aren't mine!).
This is how Gerry looked when she appeared in the 1940 U.S. Census, residing with her father in Leominster, Massachusetts. She had four years of college, worked 25 hours a week as a music teacher in a public school, and made $1100 in wages in 1939.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2012/08/not-so-wordless-wednesday-post-216-aunt.html
Copyright (c) 2012, Randall J. Seaver
Here is a photograph from the Geraldine Seaver Remley family collection handed down from my aunt in 2007 after her passing.
This is a photograph of Geraldine Seaver (1917-2007) in 1940, in an unknown place. It appears that the smudges on the right side of the picture are fingerprints, perhaps left by someone's sticky fingers (I hope they aren't mine!).
This is how Gerry looked when she appeared in the 1940 U.S. Census, residing with her father in Leominster, Massachusetts. She had four years of college, worked 25 hours a week as a music teacher in a public school, and made $1100 in wages in 1939.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2012/08/not-so-wordless-wednesday-post-216-aunt.html
Copyright (c) 2012, Randall J. Seaver
Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Getting Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825) Right on FamilySearch Family Tree
Last week, I posted Sorting Out Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825) on FamilySearch Family Tree and lamented that the erroneous spouses of Benjamin still showed up in the FamilySearch Family Tree, and his father was still himself instead of Benjamin Seaver (1757-1816).
Reader Geolover commented:
"The couple relationships that you believed you deleted for Benjamin b. 1791 are still there because at least one person is in the system as child of each of the relationships. Using the small arrow at lower left of each couple box you can see the child(ren) in the system for each couple.
"You must research the actual parentage for each child before proceeding to remove the child from the couple. The child may be assigned to correct father or to correct mother. You need the Person ID number (PID) for each correct parent of each child. When you go to the child-parent relationship screen you can remove biological relationship for wrong parent and have the option to change parent to correct parent.
"Here is where it gets sticky. There are probably duplicated individuals listed as children of Seaver relatives. The listed child(ren) of wrong parents under Benjamin Seaver b. 1791 may be composites of more than one actual person. There may be multiple wrong vital dates/places assigned to any individual child.
Here's the screens for Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825) (three screens shown):
In the screen above, you can see the Discussion section. On 2 June 2011, I added this comment in the Discussion section:
"There are 10 children listed for Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825) and Abigail Gates (1797-1869), who married in 1817.
The first six, born between 1797 and 1812, are the children of Benjamin Seaver (1757-1816) and Martha Whitney (1764-1832), the parents of Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825). The last four - Abigail, Lucinda, Isaac and Benjamin are rightly in the family of Benjamin Seaver and Abigail Gates. Records for all of these births are in the Westminster MA Vital Records book and in the Town Records book. How does something like this get fixed?"
So I added this as a Comment today:
"I fixed this situation by deleting the erroneous relationships and managed to get Benjamin Seaver (1757-1816) as father of benjamin Seaver (1791-1825). I will be adding source records as time permits."
All of the Changes I made for Benjamin Seaver are in his "Person Changes" log. There are over 50 Changes performed to get to where I am for Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825):
Reader Geolover commented:
"The couple relationships that you believed you deleted for Benjamin b. 1791 are still there because at least one person is in the system as child of each of the relationships. Using the small arrow at lower left of each couple box you can see the child(ren) in the system for each couple.
"You must research the actual parentage for each child before proceeding to remove the child from the couple. The child may be assigned to correct father or to correct mother. You need the Person ID number (PID) for each correct parent of each child. When you go to the child-parent relationship screen you can remove biological relationship for wrong parent and have the option to change parent to correct parent.
"Here is where it gets sticky. There are probably duplicated individuals listed as children of Seaver relatives. The listed child(ren) of wrong parents under Benjamin Seaver b. 1791 may be composites of more than one actual person. There may be multiple wrong vital dates/places assigned to any individual child.
"What seems like simple procedures can quickly turn to quicksand. The child-parent relationship screen can be found by mousing over a child, clicking on "view" link at right."
I appreciate the response, and the specific recommendations to solve my multiple-marriage problem. I did that - I deleted the relationships between Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825) and his erroneous wives and children, and the "problem" disappeared. There may be some "loose women" in the database who used to be identified as Benjamin's wives, but at least they aren't married to him any longer. This was actually fairly easy to do.
The more difficult task was getting Benjamin (1791-1825) to be the son of Benjamin Seaver (1757-1816). I did it using this sequence (I think!):
* Delete the relationship between husband Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825) and Martha Whitney (1764-1832).
* Delete the relationships between Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825) and the erroneous children listed for him and Martha.
* Go to Martha Whitney (1764-1832) and click on the "Add or Find Spouse" link, put Benjamin Seaver in the search fields, and pick the right one. Then Add the Marriage record for them.
That went well, although I can't recall now if I had to do something to attach all the children to Benjamin and Martha again.
I then cleaned up all of the Event and alternate name data to eliminate duplicates and obviously erroneous spellings, edited the locations to standardize place names, and now have the families for the two Benjamin Seavers in decent shape.
They look like this all cleaned up - here's the Pedigree chart:
Here's the screens for Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825) (three screens shown):
In the screen above, you can see the Discussion section. On 2 June 2011, I added this comment in the Discussion section:
"There are 10 children listed for Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825) and Abigail Gates (1797-1869), who married in 1817.
The first six, born between 1797 and 1812, are the children of Benjamin Seaver (1757-1816) and Martha Whitney (1764-1832), the parents of Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825). The last four - Abigail, Lucinda, Isaac and Benjamin are rightly in the family of Benjamin Seaver and Abigail Gates. Records for all of these births are in the Westminster MA Vital Records book and in the Town Records book. How does something like this get fixed?"
So I added this as a Comment today:
"I fixed this situation by deleting the erroneous relationships and managed to get Benjamin Seaver (1757-1816) as father of benjamin Seaver (1791-1825). I will be adding source records as time permits."
All of the Changes I made for Benjamin Seaver are in his "Person Changes" log. There are over 50 Changes performed to get to where I am for Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825):
For some of those records, I got fairly snarky with my Reason for deleting the Relationship. For example, here is one Reason I used:
"This Benjamin (1791-1825) was not the son of Benjamin Seaver (1791-1825) and Martha Whitney (1764-1832). He was not his own father. Very careless and stupid error made by someone unskilled in the genealogy arts."
I'm sure that I could have been more efficient in doing all of this.
As you can tell, there is a definite learning curve required to understand how to fix relationships of this nature. The steps are logical, but the user needs to figure out the best process to use.
The next step for the two Benjamin Seaver families is to go into the FamilySearch Record collections and put Source information into the "Source Box" for each person in the two families. I'm not going to attach sources for records not yet on FamilySearch because it has to be done by a copy/paste process. I'm still hoping that the genealogy software vendors (like RootsMagic) will find a way to put source citations into the FamilySearch fields for each person.
The problem with all of the above exercises in FamilySearch Family Tree is that it took a significant amount of time to perform - in this case, probably two to three hours to correct these two families.
I'm still bothered by the "loose women" that I detached from Benjamin Seaver... do I need to find them and delete them as persons? How do I do that? [Note: I don't have their Person IDs any longer].
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2012/07/getting-benjamin-seaver-1791-1825-right.html
Copyright (c) 2012, Randall J. Seaver
United Kingdom Databases on FindMyPast.com
I wondered just what databases are included in my www.FindMyPast.com subscription, so I found this list on the site (https://www.findmypast.com/payments, click on "Credits Explained" link):
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 0
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census 30 - 10
Anglesey Banns 20 - 10
Anglesey Baptisms 20 - 10
Anglesey Burials 20 - 10
Anglesey Marriages 20 - 10
Army Roll of Honour 1939-1945 - - 10
Baptisms of Frant, Sussex - - 10
Berkshire Burial Index - - 10
Berkshire Marriages - - 10
Billingshurst Baptisms - - 10
Billingshurst Burials and Probate - - 5
Billingshurst Marriages - - 10
Boyd's 1st Misc - - 5
Boyd's London Burials - - 5
Boyd's Marriage Index 1538-1840 - - 5
Bradford Burial Index - - 5
Bradford Parish Church burials, Yorkshire - - 5
Brayton St Wilfred Burials - - 5
British Army Service Records 1760-1915 30 - 5
British Overseas Marriages - - 5
Burials of Frant, Sussex - - 5
Caernarvonshire Banns 20 - 10
Caernarvonshire Baptisms 20 - 10
Caernarvonshire Burials 20 - 10
Caernarvonshire Marriages 20 - 10
Cambridgeshire Banns - - 10
Cambridgeshire Baptisms - - 10
Cambridgeshire Burials - - 5
Cambridgeshire Marriages - - 10
Cardigan Banns 20 - 10
Cardigan Baptisms 20 - 10
Cardigan Burials 20 - 10
Cardigan Marriage 20 - 10
Carmarthen Banns 20 - 10
Carmarthen Baptisms 20 - 10
Carmarthen Burials 20 - 10
Carmarthen Marriages 20 - 10
Chepstow non-conformists registers - - 5
Cheshire Marriage licence bonds and allegations 1606-1905 20 - 10
Cheshire Monumental Inscriptions - - 10
Cheshire Non-conformist & Roman Catholic Registers (Baptism) 17th Century-1910 20 - 10
Cheshire Non-conformist & Roman Catholic Registers (Burials) 17th Century-1910 20 - 10
Cheshire Non-conformist & Roman Catholic Registers (Marriages) 17th Century-1910 20 - 10
Cheshire Workhouse Records (Baptisms) 20 - 10
Cheshire Workhouse Records (Births) 20 - 10
Cheshire Workhouse Records (Burials) 20 - 10
Cheshire Workhouse Records (Deaths) 20 - 10
City of London Burials 1754-1855 - - 5
Cleveland Baptisms - - 5
Cleveland Marriages - - 5
Cleveland Memorial Inscriptions - - 5
Clifton Road Cemetery Memorial Inscriptions (Rugby) - - 10
Cornwall Baptisms - - 10
Cornwall Burials - - 5
Cornwall Marriages - - 5
Cornwall Memorial Inscriptions - - 5
Denbigh Banns 20 - 10
Denbigh Baptisms 20 - 10
Denbigh Burials 20 - 10
Denbigh Marriages 20 - 10
Derbyshire Registrars Birth Index - - 5
Derbyshire Registrars Death Index - - 5
Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index - - 5
Devon Baptisms - - 20
Devon Baptisms - Transcripts 10 - 10
Devon Burials - - 20
Devon Burials - Transcripts 10 - 10
Devon Marriages - - 20
Devon Marriages - Transcripts 10 - 10
Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms c1600-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Burials c1600-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Marriages c1600-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms c1538-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester parish registers of Baptisms c1538-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester parish registers of burials c1538-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910 20 - 10
Docklands Ancestors - - 10
Dorset Baptisms - - 10
Dorset Burials - - 5
Dorset Marriages - - 10
Dorset Memorial Inscriptions - - 10
Dorset Monumental Inscriptions - - 10
Dunchurch baptisms - - 10
Dunchurch Burials - - 5
Dunchurch Marriages - - 10
Durham baptisms - - 10
Durham baptisms part 2 - - 10
East Kent Burial Index - - 10
Edge Designs Burials - - 10
Elland St Mary Baptisms - - 10
Elland St Mary Burials - - 5
Elland St Mary Marriages - - 10
Elmton, Derbyshire Baptisms - - 10
Elmton, Derbyshire Burials - - 5
Elmton, Derbyshire Marriages - - 10
England & Wales births 1837-2006 5 - 5
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 5 - 5
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 5 - 5
Essex Memorial Inscriptions - - 5
Faculty Office Marriage Licences - - 10
Flint Banns 20 - 10
Flint Baptisms 20 - 10
Flint Burials 20 - 10
Flint Marriages 20 - 10
Furness burials - - 5
Glamorgan Banns 20 - 10
Glamorgan Baptisms 20 - 10
Glamorgan Burial Index - - 5
Glamorgan Burials 20 - 10
Glamorgan Marriage Index pre-1837 - - 5
Glamorgan Marriages 20 - 10
Glamorgan Marriages and Banns 20 - 10
Glamorgan Monumental Inscription index - - 5
Gloucestershire Baptisms - - 5
Gloucestershire Burials - - 5
Gloucestershire Marriages - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Blackwood - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Blackwood Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Chepstow - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Chepstow Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Ebbvale - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Pontypool Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Abergavenny - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Blackwood - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Blackwood Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Chepstow - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Chepstow Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Ebbvale - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Pontypool - - 5
Gwent FHS Marriage - Ebbvale - - 5
Gwent FHS Marriages - - 5
Gwent FHS Marriages - Blackwood - - 5
Gwent FHS Marriages - Blackwood Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Marriages - Chepstow Branch - - 5
Gwent Non-conformist Baptisms - - 10
Gwent Non-conformist marriages - - 10
Halifax St John Baptisms - - 10
Halifax St John Burials - - 5
Halifax St John Marriages - - 10
Hampshire baptisms - - 5
Hampshire Burials - - 5
Hampshire Marriages - - 5
Huddersfield Baptisms - - 10
Huntingdonshire Burials - - 5
Illingworth Marriages - - 5
Lincolnshire Cemetery Registers - - 5
Lincolnshire Marriage Index - - 5
Lincolnshire Marriage Licence Bonds and Allegations - - 5
Lincolnshire Monumental Inscriptions - - 10
Lincolnshire Parish Bastardy Cases - - 10
Lincolnshire Workhouse Deaths - - 5
Liverpool Baptisms - - 10
Liverpool Burials - - 5
Liverpool Marriages - - 10
Living relatives - - N/A
Luddenden St Mary - Baptisms - - 5
Luddenden St Mary - Burials - - 5
Luddenden St Mary - Marriages - - 5
Manchester and Oldham Burials - - 5
Manchester Baptism Register 20 - 5
Manchester Birth Register 20 - 5
Manchester Cemetery Records 20 - 5
Manchester Death Register 20 - 5
Manchester Marriage Register 20 - 5
Marriages of Frant, Sussex - - 10
Marriages Prestwich, Lancashire - - 10
Merionethshire Banns 20 - 10
Merionethshire Baptisms 20 - 10
Merionethshire Burials 20 - 10
Merionethshire Marriages 20 - 10
Mid Norfolk Baptisms - - 10
Mid Norfolk Monumental Inscriptions - - 10
Middlesex Baptisms - Cliff Webb - - 10
Middlesex Burials & MIs - Cliff Webb - - 5
Monmouth Workhouse Baptisms - - 10
Monmouth Workhouse Burials - - 10
Monmouthshire Banns 20 - 10
Monmouthshire Baptisms 20 - 10
Monmouthshire Burials N/A - 10
Monmouthshire Marriages 20 - 10
Montgomeryshire Baptisms - - 10
Montgomeryshire Burials - - 5
Montgomeryshire Marriages - - 10
N Cheshire Burials of Non-residents - - 5
N Cheshire Memorial Inscriptions - - 10
National Burial Index for England & Wales - - 5
National Roll of the Great War 1914-1918 10 - 5
North West Kent FHS Baptisms - - 10
North West Kent FHS Marriages - - 10
North Yorkshire baptisms - - 10
North Yorkshire Non-conformist baptisms - - 5
Northamptonshire Burials - - 5
Northamptonshire Marriages - - 5
Northumberland and Durham Baptisms - - 10
Northumberland and Durham Burials - - 5
Northumberland and Durham Marriages - - 10
Northumberland and Durham Memorial Inscriptions - - 10
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 30 - 5
Pembroke Banns 20 - 10
Pembroke Baptisms 20 - 10
Pembroke Burials 20 - 10
Pembroke Marriages 20 - 10
Pleasington Priory Burials - - 10
Plymouth Baptism Register 20 - 10
Plymouth Deaths & Burials 20 - 10
Plymouth Marriage Register 20 - 10
Pontefract District Baptisms - - 10
Pontefract District Burials - - 5
Pontefract District Marriages - - 10
Pontypool Marriage Announcements - - 10
Powys Banns 20 - 10
Powys Baptisms 20 - 10
Powys Burials 20 - 10
Powys Marriages 20 - 10
Rugby Baptisms - - 10
Rugby Burials - - 5
Rugby Marriages - - 10
Sarum Marriage Licence Bonds - - 10
Selby Cemetery - - 5
Sheffield Baptisms - - 5
Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919 - - 10
Somerset Marriages (post-1754) - - 10
Somerset Marriages (pre-1754) - - 10
Somerset Monumental Inscriptions - - 10
Somerset Monumental Inscriptions (Full) - - 10
Southam Baptisms - - 10
Southam Marriages - - 10
Sowerby Bridge & Illingworth Baptisms - - 5
Sowerby Bridge & Illingworth Burials - - 5
Sowerby Bridge Marriages - - 5
St Andrew's Holborn Marriage Index 1754-1812 - - 10
St Leonard Shoreditch Burials - - 10
St Mary, Lambeth burials 1777 - 1838 - - 5
Suffolk Baptism Index (part 1) - - 5
Suffolk Baptism Index (part 2) - - 5
Suffolk Baptism Index (part 3) - - 5
Suffolk Early Burials Index - - 5
Suffolk Marriage Index - - 5
Suffolk Marriage Index (1813-37) - - 5
Sussex Burials - - 5
Thames & Medway Baptisms - - 10
Thames & Medway Burials - - 10
Thames & Medway Marriages - - 10
Tunbridge Wells Baptisms - - 10
Tunbridge Wells Congregational Baptisms - - 10
Tunbridge Wells Congregational Marriages - - 10
Tunbridge Wells Marriages - - 10
Vicar General Marriage Licences - - 5
Wakefield district baptisms - - 10
Wakefield district burials - - 5
Wakefield district marriages - - 10
Warwickshire burials - - 5
West Middlesex Marriage Index - - 5
Westminster Baptisms 20 - 10
Westminster Burials 20 - 10
Westminster Marriages 20 - 10
Wiltshire Baptisms (pre-1837) - - 10
Wiltshire Memorial Inscription Index - - 10
Withington Workhouse Cemetery Records 20 - 10
Withington Workhouse Death Register 20 - 10
Wrightington Banns - - 10
Wrightington Baptisms - - 10
Wrightington Deaths - - 5
Wrightington Marriages - - 10
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 0
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5 - 5
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census 30 - 10
Anglesey Banns 20 - 10
Anglesey Baptisms 20 - 10
Anglesey Burials 20 - 10
Anglesey Marriages 20 - 10
Army Roll of Honour 1939-1945 - - 10
Baptisms of Frant, Sussex - - 10
Berkshire Burial Index - - 10
Berkshire Marriages - - 10
Billingshurst Baptisms - - 10
Billingshurst Burials and Probate - - 5
Billingshurst Marriages - - 10
Boyd's 1st Misc - - 5
Boyd's London Burials - - 5
Boyd's Marriage Index 1538-1840 - - 5
Bradford Burial Index - - 5
Bradford Parish Church burials, Yorkshire - - 5
Brayton St Wilfred Burials - - 5
British Army Service Records 1760-1915 30 - 5
British Overseas Marriages - - 5
Burials of Frant, Sussex - - 5
Caernarvonshire Banns 20 - 10
Caernarvonshire Baptisms 20 - 10
Caernarvonshire Burials 20 - 10
Caernarvonshire Marriages 20 - 10
Cambridgeshire Banns - - 10
Cambridgeshire Baptisms - - 10
Cambridgeshire Burials - - 5
Cambridgeshire Marriages - - 10
Cardigan Banns 20 - 10
Cardigan Baptisms 20 - 10
Cardigan Burials 20 - 10
Cardigan Marriage 20 - 10
Carmarthen Banns 20 - 10
Carmarthen Baptisms 20 - 10
Carmarthen Burials 20 - 10
Carmarthen Marriages 20 - 10
Chepstow non-conformists registers - - 5
Cheshire Marriage licence bonds and allegations 1606-1905 20 - 10
Cheshire Monumental Inscriptions - - 10
Cheshire Non-conformist & Roman Catholic Registers (Baptism) 17th Century-1910 20 - 10
Cheshire Non-conformist & Roman Catholic Registers (Burials) 17th Century-1910 20 - 10
Cheshire Non-conformist & Roman Catholic Registers (Marriages) 17th Century-1910 20 - 10
Cheshire Workhouse Records (Baptisms) 20 - 10
Cheshire Workhouse Records (Births) 20 - 10
Cheshire Workhouse Records (Burials) 20 - 10
Cheshire Workhouse Records (Deaths) 20 - 10
City of London Burials 1754-1855 - - 5
Cleveland Baptisms - - 5
Cleveland Marriages - - 5
Cleveland Memorial Inscriptions - - 5
Clifton Road Cemetery Memorial Inscriptions (Rugby) - - 10
Cornwall Baptisms - - 10
Cornwall Burials - - 5
Cornwall Marriages - - 5
Cornwall Memorial Inscriptions - - 5
Denbigh Banns 20 - 10
Denbigh Baptisms 20 - 10
Denbigh Burials 20 - 10
Denbigh Marriages 20 - 10
Derbyshire Registrars Birth Index - - 5
Derbyshire Registrars Death Index - - 5
Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index - - 5
Devon Baptisms - - 20
Devon Baptisms - Transcripts 10 - 10
Devon Burials - - 20
Devon Burials - Transcripts 10 - 10
Devon Marriages - - 20
Devon Marriages - Transcripts 10 - 10
Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms c1600-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Burials c1600-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Marriages c1600-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester parish registers of baptisms c1538-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester parish registers of Baptisms c1538-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester parish registers of burials c1538-1910 20 - 10
Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910 20 - 10
Docklands Ancestors - - 10
Dorset Baptisms - - 10
Dorset Burials - - 5
Dorset Marriages - - 10
Dorset Memorial Inscriptions - - 10
Dorset Monumental Inscriptions - - 10
Dunchurch baptisms - - 10
Dunchurch Burials - - 5
Dunchurch Marriages - - 10
Durham baptisms - - 10
Durham baptisms part 2 - - 10
East Kent Burial Index - - 10
Edge Designs Burials - - 10
Elland St Mary Baptisms - - 10
Elland St Mary Burials - - 5
Elland St Mary Marriages - - 10
Elmton, Derbyshire Baptisms - - 10
Elmton, Derbyshire Burials - - 5
Elmton, Derbyshire Marriages - - 10
England & Wales births 1837-2006 5 - 5
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 5 - 5
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 5 - 5
Essex Memorial Inscriptions - - 5
Faculty Office Marriage Licences - - 10
Flint Banns 20 - 10
Flint Baptisms 20 - 10
Flint Burials 20 - 10
Flint Marriages 20 - 10
Furness burials - - 5
Glamorgan Banns 20 - 10
Glamorgan Baptisms 20 - 10
Glamorgan Burial Index - - 5
Glamorgan Burials 20 - 10
Glamorgan Marriage Index pre-1837 - - 5
Glamorgan Marriages 20 - 10
Glamorgan Marriages and Banns 20 - 10
Glamorgan Monumental Inscription index - - 5
Gloucestershire Baptisms - - 5
Gloucestershire Burials - - 5
Gloucestershire Marriages - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Blackwood - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Blackwood Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Chepstow - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Chepstow Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Ebbvale - - 5
Gwent FHS Baptisms - Pontypool Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Abergavenny - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Blackwood - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Blackwood Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Chepstow - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Chepstow Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Ebbvale - - 5
Gwent FHS Burials - Pontypool - - 5
Gwent FHS Marriage - Ebbvale - - 5
Gwent FHS Marriages - - 5
Gwent FHS Marriages - Blackwood - - 5
Gwent FHS Marriages - Blackwood Branch - - 5
Gwent FHS Marriages - Chepstow Branch - - 5
Gwent Non-conformist Baptisms - - 10
Gwent Non-conformist marriages - - 10
Halifax St John Baptisms - - 10
Halifax St John Burials - - 5
Halifax St John Marriages - - 10
Hampshire baptisms - - 5
Hampshire Burials - - 5
Hampshire Marriages - - 5
Huddersfield Baptisms - - 10
Huntingdonshire Burials - - 5
Illingworth Marriages - - 5
Lincolnshire Cemetery Registers - - 5
Lincolnshire Marriage Index - - 5
Lincolnshire Marriage Licence Bonds and Allegations - - 5
Lincolnshire Monumental Inscriptions - - 10
Lincolnshire Parish Bastardy Cases - - 10
Lincolnshire Workhouse Deaths - - 5
Liverpool Baptisms - - 10
Liverpool Burials - - 5
Liverpool Marriages - - 10
Living relatives - - N/A
Luddenden St Mary - Baptisms - - 5
Luddenden St Mary - Burials - - 5
Luddenden St Mary - Marriages - - 5
Manchester and Oldham Burials - - 5
Manchester Baptism Register 20 - 5
Manchester Birth Register 20 - 5
Manchester Cemetery Records 20 - 5
Manchester Death Register 20 - 5
Manchester Marriage Register 20 - 5
Marriages of Frant, Sussex - - 10
Marriages Prestwich, Lancashire - - 10
Merionethshire Banns 20 - 10
Merionethshire Baptisms 20 - 10
Merionethshire Burials 20 - 10
Merionethshire Marriages 20 - 10
Mid Norfolk Baptisms - - 10
Mid Norfolk Monumental Inscriptions - - 10
Middlesex Baptisms - Cliff Webb - - 10
Middlesex Burials & MIs - Cliff Webb - - 5
Monmouth Workhouse Baptisms - - 10
Monmouth Workhouse Burials - - 10
Monmouthshire Banns 20 - 10
Monmouthshire Baptisms 20 - 10
Monmouthshire Burials N/A - 10
Monmouthshire Marriages 20 - 10
Montgomeryshire Baptisms - - 10
Montgomeryshire Burials - - 5
Montgomeryshire Marriages - - 10
N Cheshire Burials of Non-residents - - 5
N Cheshire Memorial Inscriptions - - 10
National Burial Index for England & Wales - - 5
National Roll of the Great War 1914-1918 10 - 5
North West Kent FHS Baptisms - - 10
North West Kent FHS Marriages - - 10
North Yorkshire baptisms - - 10
North Yorkshire Non-conformist baptisms - - 5
Northamptonshire Burials - - 5
Northamptonshire Marriages - - 5
Northumberland and Durham Baptisms - - 10
Northumberland and Durham Burials - - 5
Northumberland and Durham Marriages - - 10
Northumberland and Durham Memorial Inscriptions - - 10
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 30 - 5
Pembroke Banns 20 - 10
Pembroke Baptisms 20 - 10
Pembroke Burials 20 - 10
Pembroke Marriages 20 - 10
Pleasington Priory Burials - - 10
Plymouth Baptism Register 20 - 10
Plymouth Deaths & Burials 20 - 10
Plymouth Marriage Register 20 - 10
Pontefract District Baptisms - - 10
Pontefract District Burials - - 5
Pontefract District Marriages - - 10
Pontypool Marriage Announcements - - 10
Powys Banns 20 - 10
Powys Baptisms 20 - 10
Powys Burials 20 - 10
Powys Marriages 20 - 10
Rugby Baptisms - - 10
Rugby Burials - - 5
Rugby Marriages - - 10
Sarum Marriage Licence Bonds - - 10
Selby Cemetery - - 5
Sheffield Baptisms - - 5
Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919 - - 10
Somerset Marriages (post-1754) - - 10
Somerset Marriages (pre-1754) - - 10
Somerset Monumental Inscriptions - - 10
Somerset Monumental Inscriptions (Full) - - 10
Southam Baptisms - - 10
Southam Marriages - - 10
Sowerby Bridge & Illingworth Baptisms - - 5
Sowerby Bridge & Illingworth Burials - - 5
Sowerby Bridge Marriages - - 5
St Andrew's Holborn Marriage Index 1754-1812 - - 10
St Leonard Shoreditch Burials - - 10
St Mary, Lambeth burials 1777 - 1838 - - 5
Suffolk Baptism Index (part 1) - - 5
Suffolk Baptism Index (part 2) - - 5
Suffolk Baptism Index (part 3) - - 5
Suffolk Early Burials Index - - 5
Suffolk Marriage Index - - 5
Suffolk Marriage Index (1813-37) - - 5
Sussex Burials - - 5
Thames & Medway Baptisms - - 10
Thames & Medway Burials - - 10
Thames & Medway Marriages - - 10
Tunbridge Wells Baptisms - - 10
Tunbridge Wells Congregational Baptisms - - 10
Tunbridge Wells Congregational Marriages - - 10
Tunbridge Wells Marriages - - 10
Vicar General Marriage Licences - - 5
Wakefield district baptisms - - 10
Wakefield district burials - - 5
Wakefield district marriages - - 10
Warwickshire burials - - 5
West Middlesex Marriage Index - - 5
Westminster Baptisms 20 - 10
Westminster Burials 20 - 10
Westminster Marriages 20 - 10
Wiltshire Baptisms (pre-1837) - - 10
Wiltshire Memorial Inscription Index - - 10
Withington Workhouse Cemetery Records 20 - 10
Withington Workhouse Death Register 20 - 10
Wrightington Banns - - 10
Wrightington Baptisms - - 10
Wrightington Deaths - - 5
Wrightington Marriages - - 10
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I see that there are Wiltshire Baptisms pre-1837 available - I'll have to see if my Rich and Richman folks are included. There are also Somerset Marriages available. But not Lancashire or Yorkshire, or many other counties.
I was really surprised that FindMyPast doesn't have parish records for every county for baptisms, marriages and burials. I just expected that a longstanding commercial website in England would have them - I guess my expectations were too high. Hmmm, perhaps they haven't loaded everything they have onto the www.FindMyPast.com site. Are there more records available on the www.findmypast.co.uk website? Is there a list of them somewhere?
Many parish record transcriptions are online on Online Parish Clerks sites - such as the Lancashire site at http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/. Many are, apparently, still in work.
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