Saturday, May 29, 2021

Saturday Night Genealogy Fun -- Who Is #42 on Your Ahnentafel List?

 Calling all Genea-Musings Fans: 

 It's Saturday Night again - 

Time for some more Genealogy Fun!!


Here is your assignment, should you decide to accept it (you ARE reading this, so I assume that you really want to play along - cue the Mission Impossible music!):

1)  Have you identified #42 on your ahnentafel list?  If not, how about #21 the mother of #42?  If not, how about #10 on your ahnentafel list?  Do you even have an ahnentafel list?  

2)  Anyway, tell us about your #42 ancestor (or #21, or #10, etc.) - full name, parents, spouse, children, birth, baptism, death, marriage, burial, etc.  

2)  Tell us about it in your own blog post, in a comment to this post, or in a Facebook Status post.  Please leave a link in a comment to this post.

Here's mine:

#42 on my ahnentafel list is John Rich (1789-1868) of Hilperton, Wiltshire, England.

John Rich, my third great-grandfather, was probably born between 1789 and 1794, since he was listed as age 47 in the 1841 census, age 58 in the 1851 census, age 70 in the 1861 census, and age 79 in his burial record in June 1868.  

The parents of John Rich are not known with assurance.  They may be Robert and Betty (Sly) Rich of Trowbridge, who had a son John baptized 3 Mar 1793 Trowbridge.  They may be William and Betty (Noad) Rich of Trowbridge, according to Ancestry's "Potential Ancestors" feature.  There was a John Rich christened in Hilperton on 27 September 1789, son of John and Mary Rich; however, this may be a John Richman (also an ancestor of mine!).

This John Rich is the only male with surname Rich born between 1785 and 1795 residing in Hilperton in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 Census returns for Wiltshire.  

The first record for John Rich is his marriage record.  John Rich and Rebecca Hill were married by banns in Hilperton Parish Church by curate J. Bailes on 14 February 1815, and both signed by their mark.  George Hill and Isaac Hiscock were the witnesses.

John and Rebecca (Hill) Rich had eleven children.  They were:  James (1816), Ann (1818), John (1818), William (1821), John (1822), Jesse (1822), Hannah (1824) Emma (1827), Elizabeth (1828), William (1830) and Samuel (1833).

The baptisms of the children of John and Rebecca (Hill) Rich are in the Hilperton parish church records.  Three of the children, Hannah (born 1824) , William (born 1830) and Samuel (born 1833) were baptized on 19 February 1837.  John's occupation is given as weaver.

In the 1841 Tithing and Land Apportionment taken 27 Feb 1841 (copied from large map and rolls of records in Wiltshire County Record Office in Trowbridge), John Rich occupied land leased by Grace Shrapnell:  

#51:  house and garden, area 0a 1r 3p, tithing 0L 2s 0p.
#52:  garden                   area 0a 0r 12p, tithing -------

Lots 51 and 52 are located in Hilperton Marsh, on the south side of what is now Horse Road opposite St. Mary's Close.

In the 1841 Census for Wiltshire,  the John Rich family resided in Hilperton, Wiltshire, England.  The household included:

*  Jno Rich - age 47, male, a weaver, born Wiltshire
*  Rebecka Rich - age 55, female, born Wiltshire
*  James Rich - age 18, male, born Wiltshire
*  Elizabeth Rich - age 16, female, born Wiltshire
*  Hannah Rich - age 15, female, born Wiltshire
*  William Rich - age 10, male, born Wiltshire
*  Samuel Rich - age 7, male, born Wiltshire

In the 1851 Census for Wiltshire, the John Rich family resided in Hilperton, Wiltshire, England.[3] The household included:

*   John Rich - head, age 58, hand loom weaver, born Hilperton
*  Rebecca Rich - wife, age 63, born Hilperton
*  William Rich - son, age 21, weaver, born Hilperton
*  Samuel Rich - son, age 18, India rubber worker, born Hilperton

In the 1861 England and Wales Census, John Rich (age 70, married, a woolen cloth weaver, born in Hilperton, Wiltshire) and Rebecca Rich (age 75, married, born in Hilperton, Wiltshire) resided in Hilperton, Wiltshire.

The burial record for John Rich indicates that he resided in Hilperton Marsh, buried on 8 June 1868, age 79, i n the Hilperton church yard.  There is no extant grave marker for John or Rebecca (Hill) Rich.

I am descended from Hannah Rich (1824-1911), who married James Richman (1821-1912) in 1845 in Hilperton.  

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8 comments:

Marie Cooke Beckman said...


#42 on my ahnentafel list is James Morrow(1785-1839) of Bedford County, Tennessee.

James Morrow was my 3rd Great Grandfather and was born abt 1785 likely in South Carolina. He dies before the 1840 census. There are Bedford Co. TN court records dealing with land that he owned at the time of his death which give a good idea of his children who were living around that time. Thankful for those court records because the probate records for that area pretty much doesn't exist for that time period in that county. There are some researchers who have his last name as Murray but I do find descendants of other Morrows who group together in my DNA matches. These matches connect in South Carolina some how. Still Murray could be a spelling that a cousin of that line has adopted. James was married to Margaret Sutton (likely in KY) and they were the parents of my 2nd Great Grandmother Catherine Morrow who married George Jakes. The Morrow and Sutton families can be found with the Gaston families as well as the Ferguson and Nichols families and there are several marriages between this group who seemed to travel together as new lands became available.

Lisa S. Gorrell said...

I chose no. 42 on my husband's line, who was born in Cornwall.

https://mytrailsintothepast.blogspot.com/2021/05/saturday-night-genealogy-fun-who-is-42.html

ByAPearl said...

My only choice was #10!

https://geneajournalsbyapearl.wordpress.com/2021/05/29/daniel-ridley-1870-1936-10-ahnentafel/

Janice M. Sellers said...

The answer to the question of life is 42. Does that count?
http://www.ancestraldiscoveries.com/2021/05/saturday-night-genealogy-fun-who-is-42.html

Linda Stufflebean said...

Here's mine - late today. I've been working on county history links!https://emptybranchesonthefamilytree.com/2021/05/saturday-night-genealogy-fun-144/

Teresa said...

Alas I can't play along as I have no #42 as that number is on my paternal line and I can't get that far back in Poland at this time...

https://imgur.com/JI4cxfw

Matthew Miller said...

Here's my #42. "Old Uncle Tommy" Doran, my great-great-great-grandfather and patriarch of the black sheep family of my tree.
https://matthewkmiller.blogspot.com/2021/06/saturday-night-genealogy-fun-42.html

D. Taylor said...

I wrote an ancestor sketch for my ancestor #42 - Joel Cruff Taft. See:
http://dontaylorgenealogy.com/2021/06/ancestor-sketch-joel-cruff-taft.html/