I was pleased to see the article "When a Genealogy Hobby Digs Up Unwanted Secrets," by Sue Schellenbarger, in the Wall Street Journal newspaper dated 15 January 2013.
The second headline of "Some One in Five Find Unsavory Ancestors; How 'Sausage King' Got Rid of Wife" was a little "different," but it does persuade the reader to continue reading, I guess. I loved seeing Dr. Jean Wilcox Hibben and several other well-known genealogists quoted and their pictures displayed in the article. Here's a view of the first online page:
Those are Jean's eyes peeking over the bottom of the screen. Ron Arons photo, and his family story, are also highlighted in the article. Besides several pictures, stories, and quotes from several genealogists, there is a four minute video on the web page featuring Heather Quinlan and Sue Schellenbarger that is worth watching.
Articles like this appear in the national press on occasion, and it's almost always a positive thing for genealogy.
I wanted to print out and save the article so that I could share it at the next society meeting, so I put the URL for the article in PrintFriendly.com, and saved the article, with the photos, as a PDF. I can print it out and pass it around later this month.
Sue Schellenbarger wrote a WSJ blog article today titled "'Grandma Did What?' Digging Up the Roots of Family Lore."
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/wall-street-journal-article-features.html
Copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
Welcome to my genealogy blog. Genea-Musings features genealogy research tips and techniques, genealogy news items and commentary, genealogy humor, San Diego genealogy society news, family history research and some family history stories from the keyboard of Randy Seaver (of Chula Vista CA), who thinks that Genealogy Research Is really FUN! Copyright (c) Randall J. Seaver, 2006-2024.
Thursday, January 17, 2013
Treasure Chest Thursday - 1850 U.S. Census Record for David Auble Famikly
It's Treasure Chest Thursday - time to look in my digital image files to see what treasures I can find for my family history and genealogy musings.
The treasure today is the 1850 United States Census record for my Auble great-great-grandparents and their family in Newark, Essex County, New Jersey:
The David Auble family entry:
The extracted information for the family, residing in the West Ward of Newark City, taken on 3 August 1850, is:
* Daniel Auble -- age 32, male, white, Boot & Shoe man, born N. Jersey
* Sarah Auble -- age 30, female, white, born N. Jersey
* William Auble -- age 5, male, white, born N. Jersey, attended school
* Francis Auble -- age 3, female, white, born N. Jersey
* Charles Auble -- age 1, male, white, born N. Jersey
The source citation for this census entry is:
1850 United States Federal Census, Union County, New Jersey, population
schedule, West Ward, Newark; Page 363 (stamped verso), Dwelling #580, Family #826, David Auble
household; digital image, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 29 October 2011); citing
National Archives Microfilm Publication M432, Roll 448.
I don't see any significant errors in this census record.
As I've pointed out in other census records for this family, Charles Auble's age in the 1850 census reflects his 1849 birth date, as did the 1860 census (age 11), 1870 census (age 21) and 1880 census (age 30). In the 1900 census (age 35), 1910 census (age 55), his 1898 marriage record (age 34) and his 1916 death record (age 61), he lied about his age, apparently for vanity reasons (When he married he was age 49, and his wife was 30).
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/treasure-chest-thursday-1850-us-census.html
copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Using New Brunswick County Deed Registry Books
I had seen references that William Hutchi(n)son (1745-1826), one of my fifth great-grandfathers, had sold land in Kings County, New Brunswick in the 1790s and had subsequently moved to Upper Canada (to what is now Norfolk County, Ontario). He was a Loyalist during the American War of the Revolution and had been granted land in New Brunswick in the 1780s.
I noted today that FamilySearch had added, or updated, the New Brunswick, County Deed Registry Books, 1780-1941 on 12 January 2013. I wondered if William Hutchi(n)son was listed in them. He was!
Since this is a "Browse only" database on FamilySearch, there is no index to search for specific surnames. Consequently, the user has to use the available indexes in the records themselves, if they are present. The process here is similar to using the microfilm for this collection at the Family History Library - you work it as "digital microfilm" to find the records you seek. The process for finding the actual deed records is fairly straightforward for this set of county deed books.
1) From the FamilySearch historical record list page, I clicked on the New Brunswick, County Deed Registry Books, 1780-1941 link and then on the "Browse through 792,235 images" link, and saw:
The screen above shows the list of Counties available, and I chose Kings County (knowing that other resources said they had settled there).
After clicking on Kings County, the page with the available record sets appeared:
There are only two available record sets - the Index book, Grantor-Grantee set, and the Deed Book set. In order to find the actual deeds, I had to use the Deed Index book.
2) I picked the "1785-1880, A-L" index book from the list, and eventually found, by estimation and page-by-page browsing, the index page with William Hutchinson on it:
There were Hutchinsons on the previous page also, and I saved both pages. I noted that the first two deeds listed for William Hutchinson was for land in Sussex in Kings County, and were in Deed Book D-1 on pages 75 and 77.
3) Back to the Kings County page, and I selected the "Deed Books" set this time. The link led me to the list of available Deed Books:
I see Deed Book D-1, 1793-1795 on the list, and clicked on that one, and easily found William Hutchinson's deed on page 75 of the book (image 78 of 373):
I used the "Save" icon button (in the menu on the right side of the image above) to save this image, and the three following images, to my computer hard drive. Since they downloaded with file names of "record-image(n)," I renamed the images to reflect the person's name, year, county/province, Deed book number/page number.
How do I know that this is the correct William Hutchinson? His wife, Catherine (Lewis) Hutchinson, also signs the deeds. I think that this is the my William Hutchinson.
FamilySearch provides a general source citation for this particular record collection as:
"New Brunswick, County Deed Registry Books, 1780-1930." Images. FamilySearch. https://familysearch.org : accessed 2013. Citing Registrar of Deeds. New Brunswick, county deed registry books, 1780-1941. Service New Brunswick, Woodstock, New Brunswick.
I will use that to craft an Evidence! Explained quality source citation for the specific deeds I downloaded later.
I will also transcribe the deeds for an Amanuensis Monday post sometime in the future. I also need to download and examine all of the other Hutchinson deeds listed in the index, and see if I can find Lewis deeds also.
I had some genealogy fun this afternoon?
Do you have early New Brunswick settlers who might be in this Deed Registry Book database? If so, go see if you can find them in this FREE online "digital microfilm" database!
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/using-new-brunswick-county-deed.html
Coyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
I noted today that FamilySearch had added, or updated, the New Brunswick, County Deed Registry Books, 1780-1941 on 12 January 2013. I wondered if William Hutchi(n)son was listed in them. He was!
Since this is a "Browse only" database on FamilySearch, there is no index to search for specific surnames. Consequently, the user has to use the available indexes in the records themselves, if they are present. The process here is similar to using the microfilm for this collection at the Family History Library - you work it as "digital microfilm" to find the records you seek. The process for finding the actual deed records is fairly straightforward for this set of county deed books.
1) From the FamilySearch historical record list page, I clicked on the New Brunswick, County Deed Registry Books, 1780-1941 link and then on the "Browse through 792,235 images" link, and saw:
The screen above shows the list of Counties available, and I chose Kings County (knowing that other resources said they had settled there).
After clicking on Kings County, the page with the available record sets appeared:
There are only two available record sets - the Index book, Grantor-Grantee set, and the Deed Book set. In order to find the actual deeds, I had to use the Deed Index book.
2) I picked the "1785-1880, A-L" index book from the list, and eventually found, by estimation and page-by-page browsing, the index page with William Hutchinson on it:
There were Hutchinsons on the previous page also, and I saved both pages. I noted that the first two deeds listed for William Hutchinson was for land in Sussex in Kings County, and were in Deed Book D-1 on pages 75 and 77.
3) Back to the Kings County page, and I selected the "Deed Books" set this time. The link led me to the list of available Deed Books:
I see Deed Book D-1, 1793-1795 on the list, and clicked on that one, and easily found William Hutchinson's deed on page 75 of the book (image 78 of 373):
I used the "Save" icon button (in the menu on the right side of the image above) to save this image, and the three following images, to my computer hard drive. Since they downloaded with file names of "record-image(n)," I renamed the images to reflect the person's name, year, county/province, Deed book number/page number.
How do I know that this is the correct William Hutchinson? His wife, Catherine (Lewis) Hutchinson, also signs the deeds. I think that this is the my William Hutchinson.
FamilySearch provides a general source citation for this particular record collection as:
"New Brunswick, County Deed Registry Books, 1780-1930." Images. FamilySearch. https://familysearch.org : accessed 2013. Citing Registrar of Deeds. New Brunswick, county deed registry books, 1780-1941. Service New Brunswick, Woodstock, New Brunswick.
I will use that to craft an Evidence! Explained quality source citation for the specific deeds I downloaded later.
I will also transcribe the deeds for an Amanuensis Monday post sometime in the future. I also need to download and examine all of the other Hutchinson deeds listed in the index, and see if I can find Lewis deeds also.
I had some genealogy fun this afternoon?
Do you have early New Brunswick settlers who might be in this Deed Registry Book database? If so, go see if you can find them in this FREE online "digital microfilm" database!
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/using-new-brunswick-county-deed.html
Coyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
CGSSD Meeting on Saturday, 19 January Features Donna Bradley
The Computer Genealogy Society of San Diego meets on the 3rd Saturday of each month (except December) from 9:00 a.m. to noon on the campus of UCSD, University of California, San Diego. See our web page www.cgssd.org for directions.
The next meeting will be held on 19 January 2013 from 9:00 am to noon. Here are the details:
9:00 - User group: Family Tree Maker with Ken Robison
SIG: Beginning Computer Genealogy 101 with Judy Jiru
10:00 - Break, refreshments.
10:20 - Announcements followed by program:
Researching Your Native American Ancestry on the Internet
By Donna Bradley
Where
do you go and how do you find Native American genealogy on the
internet? We will be discussing how to find Native Americans on census
records, in books, on government documents as well as on the Indian
Rolls.
Donna Bradley is an author, genealogist, historian and Native American. She has worked with several tribal enrollment departments both for enrollment and disenrollment. She is the author of Native Americans of San Diego County and is currently writing another book. She has given several lectures and has taught genealogy on a beginning and intermediate level. Donna has been a professional genealogist for over 20 years and is a member in good standing with the Association of Professional Genealogists (APG). Although she has worked in many aspects of the field, she specializes in Native American Genealogy which is one of the most difficult areas in the profession to locate and prove.
Donna Bradley is an author, genealogist, historian and Native American. She has worked with several tribal enrollment departments both for enrollment and disenrollment. She is the author of Native Americans of San Diego County and is currently writing another book. She has given several lectures and has taught genealogy on a beginning and intermediate level. Donna has been a professional genealogist for over 20 years and is a member in good standing with the Association of Professional Genealogists (APG). Although she has worked in many aspects of the field, she specializes in Native American Genealogy which is one of the most difficult areas in the profession to locate and prove.
We
meet at the Robinson Auditorium complex on the University of
California, San Diego (UCSD) campus in La Jolla. From North Torrey
Pines Road, turn at Pangea Drive into UCSD. Free parking is available in
the parking garage on the left; use any space other than those
specifically reserved for UCSD vehicles. Signs will mark directions to
our meeting room. Please refer to our website www.cgssd.org; or the Graduate School of International Relations and Pacific Studies website (click here) for driving directions and a map.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/cgssd-meeting-on-saturday-19-january.html
(Not So) Wordless Wednesday - Post 239 - Emily and Dorothy Taylor in 1920
I'm posting family photographs from my collection on Wednesdays, but they aren't Wordless Wednesday posts like others do - I simply am incapable of having a wordless post.
Here is a photograph from the Marion (Seaver) (Braithwaite) Hemphill family collection passed to me by Aunt Marion's daughter in 2000 after her passing.
This photograph is of Emily White (Richmond) Taylor (1879-1966) and her daughter, Dorothy Richmond Taylor (1904-1992), It was probably taken in about 1920, perhaps on the street where they lived in San Diego. They are sitting on the running board of the Model T Ford (I think) owned by George Taylor, Emily's husband and Dorothy's father.
Dorothy Richmond Taylor was my father's first cousin, since Emily White (Richmond) Taylor and my father's mother, Alma Bessie (Richmond) Seaver were sisters.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/not-so-wordless-wednesday-post-239.html
Copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
Here is a photograph from the Marion (Seaver) (Braithwaite) Hemphill family collection passed to me by Aunt Marion's daughter in 2000 after her passing.
This photograph is of Emily White (Richmond) Taylor (1879-1966) and her daughter, Dorothy Richmond Taylor (1904-1992), It was probably taken in about 1920, perhaps on the street where they lived in San Diego. They are sitting on the running board of the Model T Ford (I think) owned by George Taylor, Emily's husband and Dorothy's father.
Dorothy Richmond Taylor was my father's first cousin, since Emily White (Richmond) Taylor and my father's mother, Alma Bessie (Richmond) Seaver were sisters.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/not-so-wordless-wednesday-post-239.html
Copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Collaboration at Local Genealogical Society Meetings
I went to the Sun City Palm Desert Genealogy Club yesterday to present "Finding Your Elusive Ancestor: The Genealogical Proof Standard and Doing a Reasonably Exhaustive Search." I had an excellent and responsive audience, which extended my time to two hours (planned 90 minutes). I also had the opportunity to speak at length with their President, Gary Fredericksen, and vice President, Sondra Lucas, about their programs.
All of their members are Sun City residents, and they have about 50 members, but many are "snowbirds" who are there during the winter and spring. They have weekly meetings, and one of them is usually a speaker on a genealogy topic. The other meetings are "Genealogy Forums" where they discuss genealogy research, software programs, show and tell, answer questions, help each other, etc. I complimented them on their meetings that foster connectivity and collaboration for their members, and provides them educational opportunities on a regular basis. Their handout table had many forms on it, including a list of Legacy Family Tree webinars, the Legacy cruise, NGS registration forms, SCGS information, and much more.
I also told them about the Chula Vista Genealogical Society (CVGS) efforts to foster communication and collaboration, using the monthly Research Group (in a conference room to discuss issues and research problems), the monthly Computer Group (in the library computer lab to work on computer problems and online resources), and the monthly program meeting (with a speaker presentation or special event).
I regularly articles regularly on the Chula Vista Genealogy Cafe blog for CVGS - recent articles include:
* Genealogy Days in Chula Vista - January 2013
* Family Tree Maker 2012 Workshop on Saturday, 5 January
* CVGS Newsletter for January 2013 is Available
* CVGS Research Group Summary - 9 January 2013 Meeting
All of their members are Sun City residents, and they have about 50 members, but many are "snowbirds" who are there during the winter and spring. They have weekly meetings, and one of them is usually a speaker on a genealogy topic. The other meetings are "Genealogy Forums" where they discuss genealogy research, software programs, show and tell, answer questions, help each other, etc. I complimented them on their meetings that foster connectivity and collaboration for their members, and provides them educational opportunities on a regular basis. Their handout table had many forms on it, including a list of Legacy Family Tree webinars, the Legacy cruise, NGS registration forms, SCGS information, and much more.
I also told them about the Chula Vista Genealogical Society (CVGS) efforts to foster communication and collaboration, using the monthly Research Group (in a conference room to discuss issues and research problems), the monthly Computer Group (in the library computer lab to work on computer problems and online resources), and the monthly program meeting (with a speaker presentation or special event).
I regularly articles regularly on the Chula Vista Genealogy Cafe blog for CVGS - recent articles include:
* Genealogy Days in Chula Vista - January 2013
* Family Tree Maker 2012 Workshop on Saturday, 5 January
* CVGS Newsletter for January 2013 is Available
CVGS also has a Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/ChulaVistaGenealogicalSociety?fref=ts for announcements and discussion of CVGS activities and genealogy issues.
While a website, blog, Facebook page and other social networking sites connect to about 20% of the CVGS membership, they provide the door through which local genealogists can find a genealogical society in their area, can get education, help and research advice, and can become part of a group that encourages them and provides a connection to other genealogists in their community.
Does your local genealogical society have a website, blog, Facebook presence, activities and programs to stimulate the genealogical juices of its members and local community? I hope so!
Thank you to Sondra, Gary and their members for their hospitality yesterday in Sun City (it was cold outside, but warm in the club room!) and I look forward to seeing them at future seminars, conferences and Sun City programs.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/collaboration-at-local-genealogical.html
Copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
"What Do You Do With a Document for a Potential Ancestor?"
In Nancy's blog post titled "You Genealogists With More Experience Than Me..." on the My Ancestors and Me blog yesterday, she asked the question:
"When you find a document that may be about one of your ancestors (or may just as well not be about one of them), what do you do with it?"
I have faced this problem several times, and my answer is "it depends." Let me give three examples of what I've done in the last five years for problems of this nature:
1) I don't know the names of the parents of Hannah Smith (1768-1827) who married Josiah Sawtell in New Hampshire in 1789, but I think that her parents names are Joshua and Hannah (Baldwin) Smith. I have no records linking Hannah to these potential parents, but they are the only Smiths in Brookline, NH in the 1760s.
Consequently, I added Joshua and his three wives, and their known children, to my RootsMagic database, and have added their vital events and all other records I've found about any of them to my RootsMagic database, including document images when available. I created a Research Log in RootsMagic for this project, and have a To-Do list for the project. Joshua's little tree is part of my big tree database, but is not attached to Hannah Smith. I also have a notebook for all of the papers collected for the Smiths of Hillsborough County, NH in past years. If I find Hannah's parents, then I will digitize the documents I have on paper and attach them to the right persons.
My research on Joshua Smith will live on in my database for others to see online even if I don't connect Hannah to this set of parents.
2) My second great-grandfather, Devier J. Smith, was adopted and had a birth name of Devier J. Lamphier, according to Wisconsin State Senate records and his adoptive father's will. I started a separate database in RootsMagic for the Lamphier family line, and have added all of the families that I've found with the surname Lamphier (and alternate spellings) that resided in northeastern New York before 1850 in hopes of finding his birth parents. I've added many records and sources to the persons in this database, including document images, and have created a Research Log and To-Do list. I also have some documents on paper in a file folder labeled "Lamphier."
If I ever connect Devier with a set of Lamphier parents, I can merge the Lamphier tree into my ancestral tree.
3) When I save documents in digital format in a file folder on my computer for persons that are not my known ancestors (including potential ancestors, but also persons of the surname who are not my ancestors), I put them in a file folder titled "Other 'Surname' Families" (where "Surname' = the actual surname - e.g., "Other Smith Families").
Here is my file folder for "Other Smith Families" documents:
I hope that answers Nancy's question about "what do you do with a document for a potential ancestor?"
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/what-do-you-do-with-document-for.html
Copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
"When you find a document that may be about one of your ancestors (or may just as well not be about one of them), what do you do with it?"
I have faced this problem several times, and my answer is "it depends." Let me give three examples of what I've done in the last five years for problems of this nature:
1) I don't know the names of the parents of Hannah Smith (1768-1827) who married Josiah Sawtell in New Hampshire in 1789, but I think that her parents names are Joshua and Hannah (Baldwin) Smith. I have no records linking Hannah to these potential parents, but they are the only Smiths in Brookline, NH in the 1760s.
Consequently, I added Joshua and his three wives, and their known children, to my RootsMagic database, and have added their vital events and all other records I've found about any of them to my RootsMagic database, including document images when available. I created a Research Log in RootsMagic for this project, and have a To-Do list for the project. Joshua's little tree is part of my big tree database, but is not attached to Hannah Smith. I also have a notebook for all of the papers collected for the Smiths of Hillsborough County, NH in past years. If I find Hannah's parents, then I will digitize the documents I have on paper and attach them to the right persons.
My research on Joshua Smith will live on in my database for others to see online even if I don't connect Hannah to this set of parents.
2) My second great-grandfather, Devier J. Smith, was adopted and had a birth name of Devier J. Lamphier, according to Wisconsin State Senate records and his adoptive father's will. I started a separate database in RootsMagic for the Lamphier family line, and have added all of the families that I've found with the surname Lamphier (and alternate spellings) that resided in northeastern New York before 1850 in hopes of finding his birth parents. I've added many records and sources to the persons in this database, including document images, and have created a Research Log and To-Do list. I also have some documents on paper in a file folder labeled "Lamphier."
If I ever connect Devier with a set of Lamphier parents, I can merge the Lamphier tree into my ancestral tree.
3) When I save documents in digital format in a file folder on my computer for persons that are not my known ancestors (including potential ancestors, but also persons of the surname who are not my ancestors), I put them in a file folder titled "Other 'Surname' Families" (where "Surname' = the actual surname - e.g., "Other Smith Families").
Here is my file folder for "Other Smith Families" documents:
I hope that answers Nancy's question about "what do you do with a document for a potential ancestor?"
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/what-do-you-do-with-document-for.html
Copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
Monday, January 14, 2013
UPDATED: Genealogist Beware - Checking Out Genealogy.us.org
I have seen several questions on social networking sites about the seemingly new website, http://genealogy.us.org. The banner for the site says "Your best choice for genealogy records!"
Here is the home page (two screens):
Under the search box, it says:
"Learn more about the people associated with any Genealogy Records. When available, our reports include: Genealogy Records; Photos; Search ancestors; Family History; Family Tree; Birth/Death Records;Military Records; Family Genealogy; Adoption Records; Obituaries."
There's a nice green button that says "Find People Anytime." Does "anytime" mean any historical person, or now, and another time, and later again?
At the bottom of the page, it says: "Search Any Name to Get Full Results." Really? Full results?? No one gets "full results" searching one website, do they?
So what is this website? Is it a site that will find actual genealogical records for a real person - living or dead? Or is it a "find living people" site? It costs $1 to find out.
I entered the name Isaac Seaver and the state Massachusetts into the search box, and the site found 75 Records (it said...). I saw this page:
There are eight databases listed there that were, apparently, "searched":
* Background Database
* Public Records Database
* Phone Numbers Database
* Associates Database
* State Records Database
* Nationwide Databases
* State Criminal Records Database
* Criminal Records Database
These lines showed on the screen above for a few seconds, and then it quickly showed me this screen:
So for one dollar I can get all of my genealogy problems solved by this website? That seems like a bargain. Clicking on the "Show Me My Report" button leads to the payment page where they will charge your credit card $1.00 for their service. There is a customer support phone number (1-866-434-4253) and the statement:
"If for whatever reason your unhappy with your report please contact customer support for a refund."
There are images of a "Sample Report" on the website. It wasn't possible for me to magnify those images (you can't save them...) to see what they say. I think that a "good" genealogy website would encourage you to look at them and provide a way to do so.
Then I realized that the search engine didn't bother with things like birth date, death date, spouse's names, and the like. How did it ever figure out which Isaac Seaver for whom I was looking for information?
I went to Ancestry.com and did an "exact match" on the name Isaac Seaver. There are 508 exact matches in the records available on Ancestry.com:
So perhaps Genealogy.us.org doesn't search and find all records? It found 75, and Ancestry found 507. And only some of those are for my Isaac Seaver (1823-1901). What are the odds that Genealogy.us.org found ANY records for my Isaac Seaver (1823-1901)? My guess is SLIM or NONE. And I'm not willing to bet even $1 to find out.
Maybe I'm wrong, but this Genealogy.us.org site looks like a "living person records" site that finds phone numbers, addresses, family members, court records, criminal records, etc. Sites like that have value if that is what a researcher wants.
My conclusion is "Genealogist Beware!!" Before I pay for anything on this site, I want to know what records it searches, what the report looks like in some detail, and how is it a "genealogy" search engine? Does it really find birth and death records, military records, etc. for historical persons, or just for living people? How does it discern one Isaac Seaver from another in Massachusetts? Is it just a living person finder? I want to know a LOT MORE about this service before it gets my hard earned dollar (and has my credit card number)!
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/genealogist-beware-checking-out.html
Copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
UPDATED 7 p.m.: Thomas Macentee commented:
It is very important to read the Terms and Conditions on genealogy.us.org including this paragraph:
"You will receive your report for $1.00. Our customer service phone is 1- 866- 434- 4253. If for whatever reason your unhappy with your report please contact customer support for a refund.
"After you purchase your report for $1.00, you have the option to purchase our volume discount package for $199.50 details below:
"Services, we offer twelve months of twenty five reports a month for one year to search from millions of records around the United States. By ordering today you are agreeing to the total cost incurred from the payment plan by accepting all ten payments outlined below, and we agree to deliver all services pursuant to these terms. Refund policy, if you are unsatisfied with your order you may cancel your payments and receive a refund on your latest month's charge. Call: 1- 866- 434- 4253. Billing Information: This offer does not automatically renew. $199.50 billed over ten equal monthly payments starting today and prices are subject to change. In addition to our refund policy we also offer a search credit for any unsuccessful search. View a map of participating states click here. You may search for Genealogy Record reports for millions of records around the united states. This offer does not automatically renew. $199.50 billed over ten equal monthly payments starting today . We offer twelve months of twenty five reports a month for one year to search from millions of records around the United States."
http://www.genealogy.us.org/terms.php
I am genea-smacked. We have to get used to reading the Terms and Conditions on these companies that are trying to "help" us with our research.
Check out the Privacy policies too - http://www.genealogy.us.org/privacy.php. I'm glad that I didn't register!
My thanks to Thomas for digging this up for us.
UPDATED 15 January, 10 a.m.: I knew that I had read some posts about this site - and Christine Blythe has been a lone voice in the wilderness until now - see her summary post
Here is the home page (two screens):
Under the search box, it says:
"Learn more about the people associated with any Genealogy Records. When available, our reports include: Genealogy Records; Photos; Search ancestors; Family History; Family Tree; Birth/Death Records;Military Records; Family Genealogy; Adoption Records; Obituaries."
There's a nice green button that says "Find People Anytime." Does "anytime" mean any historical person, or now, and another time, and later again?
At the bottom of the page, it says: "Search Any Name to Get Full Results." Really? Full results?? No one gets "full results" searching one website, do they?
So what is this website? Is it a site that will find actual genealogical records for a real person - living or dead? Or is it a "find living people" site? It costs $1 to find out.
I entered the name Isaac Seaver and the state Massachusetts into the search box, and the site found 75 Records (it said...). I saw this page:
There are eight databases listed there that were, apparently, "searched":
* Background Database
* Public Records Database
* Phone Numbers Database
* Associates Database
* State Records Database
* Nationwide Databases
* State Criminal Records Database
* Criminal Records Database
These lines showed on the screen above for a few seconds, and then it quickly showed me this screen:
So for one dollar I can get all of my genealogy problems solved by this website? That seems like a bargain. Clicking on the "Show Me My Report" button leads to the payment page where they will charge your credit card $1.00 for their service. There is a customer support phone number (1-866-434-4253) and the statement:
"If for whatever reason your unhappy with your report please contact customer support for a refund."
There are images of a "Sample Report" on the website. It wasn't possible for me to magnify those images (you can't save them...) to see what they say. I think that a "good" genealogy website would encourage you to look at them and provide a way to do so.
Then I realized that the search engine didn't bother with things like birth date, death date, spouse's names, and the like. How did it ever figure out which Isaac Seaver for whom I was looking for information?
I went to Ancestry.com and did an "exact match" on the name Isaac Seaver. There are 508 exact matches in the records available on Ancestry.com:
So perhaps Genealogy.us.org doesn't search and find all records? It found 75, and Ancestry found 507. And only some of those are for my Isaac Seaver (1823-1901). What are the odds that Genealogy.us.org found ANY records for my Isaac Seaver (1823-1901)? My guess is SLIM or NONE. And I'm not willing to bet even $1 to find out.
Maybe I'm wrong, but this Genealogy.us.org site looks like a "living person records" site that finds phone numbers, addresses, family members, court records, criminal records, etc. Sites like that have value if that is what a researcher wants.
My conclusion is "Genealogist Beware!!" Before I pay for anything on this site, I want to know what records it searches, what the report looks like in some detail, and how is it a "genealogy" search engine? Does it really find birth and death records, military records, etc. for historical persons, or just for living people? How does it discern one Isaac Seaver from another in Massachusetts? Is it just a living person finder? I want to know a LOT MORE about this service before it gets my hard earned dollar (and has my credit card number)!
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/genealogist-beware-checking-out.html
Copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
UPDATED 7 p.m.: Thomas Macentee commented:
It is very important to read the Terms and Conditions on genealogy.us.org including this paragraph:
"You will receive your report for $1.00. Our customer service phone is 1- 866- 434- 4253. If for whatever reason your unhappy with your report please contact customer support for a refund.
"After you purchase your report for $1.00, you have the option to purchase our volume discount package for $199.50 details below:
"Services, we offer twelve months of twenty five reports a month for one year to search from millions of records around the United States. By ordering today you are agreeing to the total cost incurred from the payment plan by accepting all ten payments outlined below, and we agree to deliver all services pursuant to these terms. Refund policy, if you are unsatisfied with your order you may cancel your payments and receive a refund on your latest month's charge. Call: 1- 866- 434- 4253. Billing Information: This offer does not automatically renew. $199.50 billed over ten equal monthly payments starting today and prices are subject to change. In addition to our refund policy we also offer a search credit for any unsuccessful search. View a map of participating states click here. You may search for Genealogy Record reports for millions of records around the united states. This offer does not automatically renew. $199.50 billed over ten equal monthly payments starting today . We offer twelve months of twenty five reports a month for one year to search from millions of records around the United States."
http://www.genealogy.us.org/terms.php
I am genea-smacked. We have to get used to reading the Terms and Conditions on these companies that are trying to "help" us with our research.
Check out the Privacy policies too - http://www.genealogy.us.org/privacy.php. I'm glad that I didn't register!
My thanks to Thomas for digging this up for us.
UPDATED 15 January, 10 a.m.: I knew that I had read some posts about this site - and Christine Blythe has been a lone voice in the wilderness until now - see her summary post
The Saga of Genealogy.us.org and Ancestor.us.org on the Empty Nest Genealogy blog. Christine has been threatened by the company with legal action. We need to stand with her and support her.
My apologies to Christine for not linking to her posts when I originally wrote this post.
Amanuensis Monday - Martin Carringer's Revolutionary War Pension File: Post 6: son George's 1851 Declaration
Genea-blogger John Newmark (who writes the excellent TransylvanianDutch blog) started his own Monday blog theme several years ago called Amanuensis Monday. What does "amanuensis" mean? John offers this definition:
"A person employed to write what another dictates or to copy what has been written by another."
The subject today is a document from the Revolutionary War Pension File of Martin Carringer (1758-1835) of Mercer County, Pennsylvania (accessed on and digital image obtained from www.Fold3.com):
The transcription of this paper (image 17 on the Fold3 filmstrip) is:
State of Pennsylvania }
County of Mercer .... } SS
On this 28th day of August 1851 personally appeared before me Thos Robinson a Justice of the Peace in and for said county George Carringer aged 56 years resident of Perry Township in said county Who being first duly sworn doth on his Oath make the following declaration under act of Congress passed first July 1848 & 2d February 1848.
This declarant further states that he is the lawful child of Mary Carringer who was the lawful wife & widow of the aforesaid Martin Carringer that the maiden name of this declarants Mother was Mary Hoax and that she the said Mary was a pensioner of the United States at the rate of 80$ per annum and that the said Mary Carringer died in said county on the thirty first (31) day of August in the year eighteen hundred and fifty leaving six children only surviving her whose names are Jacob Carringer, Elizabeth McCartney deceased on the 14th day of November in the year 1850, Catherine Cazbe, George, Henry and Joseph Carringer.
Sworn and subscribed to
on the day and year first .......................................... George Carringer
above written before me
Thomas Robinson J. P.
I certify that I am well acquainted with George Carringer and that the above written declaration subscribed to by him is believed to be correct and true and that his testimony is entitled to full credit and beleif.
.................................................................... Thomas Robinson J.P.
This paper in the Martin Carringer Revolutionary War Pension File provides the death date of his mother, Mary (Hoax) Carringer, the death date of his sister, Elizabeth (Carringer) McCartney, and the names of four other siblings of George still alive.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/amanuensis-monday-martin-carringers_14.html
Copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
"A person employed to write what another dictates or to copy what has been written by another."
The subject today is a document from the Revolutionary War Pension File of Martin Carringer (1758-1835) of Mercer County, Pennsylvania (accessed on and digital image obtained from www.Fold3.com):
The transcription of this paper (image 17 on the Fold3 filmstrip) is:
State of Pennsylvania }
County of Mercer .... } SS
On this 28th day of August 1851 personally appeared before me Thos Robinson a Justice of the Peace in and for said county George Carringer aged 56 years resident of Perry Township in said county Who being first duly sworn doth on his Oath make the following declaration under act of Congress passed first July 1848 & 2d February 1848.
This declarant further states that he is the lawful child of Mary Carringer who was the lawful wife & widow of the aforesaid Martin Carringer that the maiden name of this declarants Mother was Mary Hoax and that she the said Mary was a pensioner of the United States at the rate of 80$ per annum and that the said Mary Carringer died in said county on the thirty first (31) day of August in the year eighteen hundred and fifty leaving six children only surviving her whose names are Jacob Carringer, Elizabeth McCartney deceased on the 14th day of November in the year 1850, Catherine Cazbe, George, Henry and Joseph Carringer.
Sworn and subscribed to
on the day and year first .......................................... George Carringer
above written before me
Thomas Robinson J. P.
I certify that I am well acquainted with George Carringer and that the above written declaration subscribed to by him is believed to be correct and true and that his testimony is entitled to full credit and beleif.
.................................................................... Thomas Robinson J.P.
This paper in the Martin Carringer Revolutionary War Pension File provides the death date of his mother, Mary (Hoax) Carringer, the death date of his sister, Elizabeth (Carringer) McCartney, and the names of four other siblings of George still alive.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/amanuensis-monday-martin-carringers_14.html
Copyright (c) 2013, Randall J. Seaver
Sunday, January 13, 2013
Best of the Genea-Blogs - 6 to 12 January 2013
Hundreds of genealogy and family history bloggers write thousands of posts every week about their research, their families, and their interests. I appreciate each one of them and their efforts.
My criteria for "Best of ..." are pretty simple - I pick posts that advance knowledge about genealogy and family history, address current genealogy issues, provide personal family history, are funny or are poignant. I don't list posts destined for the genealogy carnivals, or other meme submissions (but I do include summaries of them), or my own posts.
Here are my picks for great reads from the genealogy blogs for this past week:
* In Loving Memory of Joan Miller - Genetic Genealogist, Blogger, and Dear Friend by CeCe Moore on the Your Genetic Genealogist blog. Thank you, CeCe for your wonderful tribute to a truly beautiful person.
* Who Belongs on the Family Tree? by Kirsty Wilkinson on The Professional Descendant blog. Excellent question, lots of great comments too.
* Can Genealogy Software Be Rated Fairly? by Louis Kessler on Louis Kessler's Behold Blog. I think it can, but it needs many reviewers to do it fairly.
* Right and Wrong vs. Consistency by Michele Simmons Lewis on the Ancestoring's Ask a Genealogist blog. Michele makes the case for being consistent with dates and place names in your database.
* Protecting Your Digital World - Part 2 by Denise Barrett Olson on the Moultrie Tree Gazette blog. Denise discusses passwords, phishing and smishing, and social media protection. Excellent advice!
* QuickLesson 15: Plagiarism -- Five "CopyWrongs" of Historical Writing by Elizabeth Shown Mills on the EvidenceExplained website. All genealogy writiers should read and understand this article.
* A Visit to the Family History Library by Diane Boumenot on the One Rhode Island Family blog. Diane had three days at the FHL and got a lot done. She has some comments on the process too.
* Mind the Gap: Comparing Genealogy Associations to Other Info-Based Groups by Amy Coffin on The We Tree Genealogy Blog. Amy refers to an SLA report that highlights how library associations are trying to transform, renew and inspire their members...and wonders why genealogy groups aren't doing this.
* Solving the Paradox of Research Planning by Harold Henderson on the Archives.com Experts Series. Harold has sound advice on research planning.
* Q&A With Judy Russell: A Conversation About the Upcoming WRHS Seminar, "Genealogy and the Law" by Chris Staats on the Staats Genealogical Services blog. Chris conducts an interview with Judy on her upcomng seminar.
* The Drafty Ohioan by Judy G. Russell on The Legal Genealogist blog. Judy describes the process to find out how an Ohioan was not drafted during the Civil War - starting with analyzing the law and how it applied to the person.
* Review of the New Evidentia Software by Shannon Bennett on The In-Depth Genealogist blog. Shannon provides another look at Evidentia.
* So You Want to Re[-Invent Genealogy? Here's How by Harold Henderson on the Midwestern Microhistory: A Genealogy Blog. Harold outlines how...the challenge is in the details! Heck, 80% of the genealogy community has no idea what the GPS is.
These genea-bloggers wrote weekly pick posts and news summary posts this week:
* Monday Morning Mentions by Lynn Palermo on The Armchair Genealogist blog.
* Ruth's Recommendations by Ruth Blair on The Passionate Genealogist blog.
* Monday Recap for January 7, 2013 by Amanda on the Geni Blog.
* Follow Friday - Fab Finds for January 11, 2013 by Jana Last on the Jana's Genealogy and Family History Blog.
* Pig Farmers, Copywrongs and Other Genealogical Musings. Follow Friday by Anne Gillespie Mitchell on the Finding Forgotten Stories blog.
* Genealogy News Corral, Jan. 7-11 by Beth on the Genealogy Insider blog.
* Genealogy Blogs, News and Tidbits #2 by Deb Ruth on the Adventures in Genealogy blog.
* Follow Friday - Favorites for January 11, 2013 by Heather Kuhn Roelker on the Leaves for Trees blog.
* From the Blogs, January 11 by Michael Leclerc on the Mocavo Genealogy blog.
* Friday's Finds-01/11/13 by Julie Cahill Tarr on the GenBlog blog.
* Weekly Genealogy Picks: Jan. 6-12 by John Newmark on the TransylvanianDutch blog.
I encourage readers to go to the blogs listed above and read their articles, and add their blogs to your Favorites, Google Reader, RSS feed or email if you like what you read. Please make a comment to them also - all bloggers appreciate feedback on what they write.
Did I miss a great genealogy blog post? Tell me! I am currently reading posts from over 1300 genealogy bloggers using Google Reader, but I still miss quite a few it seems.
Read past Best of the Genea-Blogs posts here.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/best-of-genea-blogs-6-to-12-january-2013_13.html
Copyright(c) 2012, Randall J. Seaver
My criteria for "Best of ..." are pretty simple - I pick posts that advance knowledge about genealogy and family history, address current genealogy issues, provide personal family history, are funny or are poignant. I don't list posts destined for the genealogy carnivals, or other meme submissions (but I do include summaries of them), or my own posts.
Here are my picks for great reads from the genealogy blogs for this past week:
* In Loving Memory of Joan Miller - Genetic Genealogist, Blogger, and Dear Friend by CeCe Moore on the Your Genetic Genealogist blog. Thank you, CeCe for your wonderful tribute to a truly beautiful person.
* Who Belongs on the Family Tree? by Kirsty Wilkinson on The Professional Descendant blog. Excellent question, lots of great comments too.
* Can Genealogy Software Be Rated Fairly? by Louis Kessler on Louis Kessler's Behold Blog. I think it can, but it needs many reviewers to do it fairly.
* Right and Wrong vs. Consistency by Michele Simmons Lewis on the Ancestoring's Ask a Genealogist blog. Michele makes the case for being consistent with dates and place names in your database.
* Protecting Your Digital World - Part 2 by Denise Barrett Olson on the Moultrie Tree Gazette blog. Denise discusses passwords, phishing and smishing, and social media protection. Excellent advice!
* QuickLesson 15: Plagiarism -- Five "CopyWrongs" of Historical Writing by Elizabeth Shown Mills on the EvidenceExplained website. All genealogy writiers should read and understand this article.
* A Visit to the Family History Library by Diane Boumenot on the One Rhode Island Family blog. Diane had three days at the FHL and got a lot done. She has some comments on the process too.
* Mind the Gap: Comparing Genealogy Associations to Other Info-Based Groups by Amy Coffin on The We Tree Genealogy Blog. Amy refers to an SLA report that highlights how library associations are trying to transform, renew and inspire their members...and wonders why genealogy groups aren't doing this.
* Solving the Paradox of Research Planning by Harold Henderson on the Archives.com Experts Series. Harold has sound advice on research planning.
* Q&A With Judy Russell: A Conversation About the Upcoming WRHS Seminar, "Genealogy and the Law" by Chris Staats on the Staats Genealogical Services blog. Chris conducts an interview with Judy on her upcomng seminar.
* The Drafty Ohioan by Judy G. Russell on The Legal Genealogist blog. Judy describes the process to find out how an Ohioan was not drafted during the Civil War - starting with analyzing the law and how it applied to the person.
* Review of the New Evidentia Software by Shannon Bennett on The In-Depth Genealogist blog. Shannon provides another look at Evidentia.
* So You Want to Re[-Invent Genealogy? Here's How by Harold Henderson on the Midwestern Microhistory: A Genealogy Blog. Harold outlines how...the challenge is in the details! Heck, 80% of the genealogy community has no idea what the GPS is.
These genea-bloggers wrote weekly pick posts and news summary posts this week:
* Monday Morning Mentions by Lynn Palermo on The Armchair Genealogist blog.
* Ruth's Recommendations by Ruth Blair on The Passionate Genealogist blog.
* Monday Recap for January 7, 2013 by Amanda on the Geni Blog.
* Follow Friday - Fab Finds for January 11, 2013 by Jana Last on the Jana's Genealogy and Family History Blog.
* Pig Farmers, Copywrongs and Other Genealogical Musings. Follow Friday by Anne Gillespie Mitchell on the Finding Forgotten Stories blog.
* Genealogy News Corral, Jan. 7-11 by Beth on the Genealogy Insider blog.
* Genealogy Blogs, News and Tidbits #2 by Deb Ruth on the Adventures in Genealogy blog.
* Follow Friday - Favorites for January 11, 2013 by Heather Kuhn Roelker on the Leaves for Trees blog.
* From the Blogs, January 11 by Michael Leclerc on the Mocavo Genealogy blog.
* Friday's Finds-01/11/13 by Julie Cahill Tarr on the GenBlog blog.
* Weekly Genealogy Picks: Jan. 6-12 by John Newmark on the TransylvanianDutch blog.
I encourage readers to go to the blogs listed above and read their articles, and add their blogs to your Favorites, Google Reader, RSS feed or email if you like what you read. Please make a comment to them also - all bloggers appreciate feedback on what they write.
Did I miss a great genealogy blog post? Tell me! I am currently reading posts from over 1300 genealogy bloggers using Google Reader, but I still miss quite a few it seems.
Read past Best of the Genea-Blogs posts here.
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/01/best-of-genea-blogs-6-to-12-january-2013_13.html
Copyright(c) 2012, Randall J. Seaver
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