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In the previous post (Navigating Old and New Search on Ancestry.com - Post 1: New Search, Advanced Form), I highlighted my preferred method of searching Ancestry.com using the New Search features and the Advanced Search Form.
Not everyone uses New Search with the Advanced Search Form, so I want to go through the most effective ways to use the Basic Search Form also. See the recommendation at the bottom of this post.
When users access Ancestry.com for the first time, the system may come up with the Basic Search Form in New Search. Beginning users will not know about differences between the Basic Form and the Advanced Form, and will happily enter a name into the Basic Form on the screen.
Trying to act like a beginning user, here is what I might do:
1) Here is the Home screen with the Basic Search Form (with my Isaac Seaver in the name fields):
Note that there is no "Exact matches" check box on this form. A user can add a "place your ancestor might have lived" and an "Estimated birth year" to the fields below the name. There is a link to "Show Advanced" in the area above the search fields (on the right).
2) I clicked on the orange "Search" button, and received this screen with matches:
The system found 295,194 matches for me (note the "Sorted by relevance" in the dropdown box on the Ine with the number of matches). As an experienced user, I would probably click the down arrow next to "Sorted by relevance" and choose "Summarized by category," but I'll show that later).
Note that the list above is sorted by relevance - meaning how well the items match the search criteria - in this case, only the first name of "Isaac" and the last name of "Seaver." The results use a "five-star" system that rates how the records found in the databases match the search criteria. The ones with the most matches will be first - in this case, records that have Isaac and Seaver will receive three stars (why three and not two? I don't know!). First names with "I" instead of "Isaac" appear to be next (two-stars). There are also "1.5 star" matches for "Isaac" and "Seaver" appearing in the same record separated by other words or names. Other "1.5 star" matches are for "Isaac" and names similar to "Seaver" (the system uses Soundex rules). After many (hundreds?) of these matches, there are more "1.5 star" matches for "Seaver" with another first name, and "Isaac" only with another last name. I didn't go through all 295,194 matches, and don't expect that anyone else will either.
The user needs a way to narrow the search. One way is to select a set of records. On the left side are record categories - census and voter lists; birth, marriage and deaths; and several others. I can click on an item on the list to narrow my search to a specific record set.
3) I chose the "Census and Voter Lists" from the above screen, and saw:
That worked, there are 28,049 matches in the Census and Voter Lists for Isaac Seaver. In order to get to a specific census, say 1850, I have to either scroll down the list of matches (which a Beginner is most likely to do) or I can select the year from the list on the left-hand side of the screen.
There is an even better way to narrow the search.
4) The user can try to narrow the search by clicking on the green "Edit Search" link on the left-hand side below the words "Searching for" and a search window will appear:
There are more search fields in this window - Birth (year and location); Lived In (location); Any Event year and location; Family Member (Relationship, first name, last name); More (keyword); Gender; Race or Nationality.
I entered a birth year of 1823 into the Birth field, and clicked on "Search."
5) The number of matches for Isaac Seaver born in 1823 in the Census records is down to 3,097:
My Isaac Seaver now shows up in the first 50 matches and I'm happy as a clam. I think.
6) There is an alternative to using the on "Edit Search" button - to use the "Hot Keys" list below the list of "Narrow by Category" on the left-hand side of the screen. The Hot Keys are:
Using the keyboard, a user can hit the "n" key and receive a new search screen. The user can Refine the present search (meaning they can edit the current information and/or add information to narrow the search) by hitting the "r" key, can preview the current record with the "p" key, or highlight the next or previous record.
I find the "r" key (to Refine the search" very useful - I use it rather than click on the "Edit Search" button. The same "Search" window shown in 4) above comes up so that I can edit and/or add information to the search fields.
7) Another option for using the Basic Search form is to add as much known information as possible - if I had added the birth date (1823) and birth location (Massachusetts) on the very first screen above, the results page looks like this:
There are "only" 48,642 matches, but the top 20 or 30 matches are for my Isaac Seaver. There is a lesson learned here!
The drawbacks of using the Basic Search form in New Search are:
* The user cannot specify an Exact Search at any time.
* The default Search is a ranked Search which provides many matches - it often seems like searching for a needle in a haystack.
* The "Sorted by Relevance" is the default result.
Although it is not obvious to a Beginning user, the user can narrow the search by adding information using the "Edit Search" button or the "r" Hot Key; and can use wild cards in the names in the search fields (which results in more matches, of course!). The Hot Keys work only in New Search.
As you can see, even the Basic Search Form can be quite complicated! It takes a significant learning curve for a user to figure out how to effectively search Ancestry.com.
If a user is using the Basic Search form, the best way to find matches relatively quickly is to add the names, the birth date, and a residence (usually a state) in the very first Basic Search form screen on the Home page or the Search tab page. If there are way too many matches, then the user should select "Summarize by Category" rather than "Sorted by Relevance" on the Results page in order to narrow the search to a specific record type (e.g., census) and specific database (e.g., 1850).
We'll look at the Old Search in the next post in this series.
Disclosure: I am not an employee, affiliate or contractor for Ancestry.com, although I have accepted travel expenses and gifts from them in the past. I have a U.S. Deluxe Subscription that I pay for myself.
The URL for this post is http://www.geneamusings.com/2011/05/navigating-ancestrycom-post-2-new.html
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant. If you are reading this on any other genealogy website, then they have stolen my work.
Welcome to my genealogy blog. Genea-Musings features genealogy research tips and techniques, genealogy news items and commentary, genealogy humor, San Diego genealogy society news, family history research and some family history stories from the keyboard of Randy Seaver (of Chula Vista CA), who thinks that Genealogy Research Is really FUN! Copyright (c) Randall J. Seaver, 2006-2024.
Tuesday, May 31, 2011
Tuesday's Tip -- the Relatively Curious "Internet Genealogy" Toolbar
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This week's Tuesday's Tip is to: Download and use Tami Glatz's Relatively Curious "Internet Genealogy" Toolbar, and use it to find genealogy resources.
The FREE "Internet Genealogy" Toolbar can be downloaded from http://relativelycurious.ourtoolbar.com/. The screen below shows the Download page:
The download is very quick, and the Toolbar appears on your browser page. The screen shot below shows the "Internet Genealogy" Toolbar on my IE9 browser, just below the Google Toolbar:
The Toolbar has these tabs:
* A Search box (it uses Microsoft Bing)
* Resources (genealogy tools and links by subject, e.g., Cemeteries and Death)
* Free (free genealogy websites, e.g., FamilySearch)
* Subscription (e.g., Ancestry)
* In Print (published resources, e.g., online books, libraries)
* Connect (social network sites, e.g. Facebook)
* Blogs (14 of Tami's faves, including Genea-Musings!)
* Gadgets (utility programs, e.g. TinyURL, Dropbox)
The "Internet Genealogy" Toolbar is a collection of links that genealogists can use to quickly access many of their favorite genealogy websites.
How does the Toolbar work? In the screen above, I clicked on the "Resources" tab and scrolled down to "Military" and a second menu with links to military resources opened. I could click on any one of them, and a new window tab will open to that website. In other words - this Toolbar acts like my Favorites (or Bookmarks in some system). It seems to be much easier to use for many websites than using my bloated Favorites. Note that my Favorites are still available to me on my browser screen.
I sent Tami some links yesterday to add or change on her toolbar, and within an hour or two she had them installed. I clicked on the down arrow on the blue "Internet Genealogy" on the left of the Toolbar and clicked on "Refresh Toolbar" and the Toolbar links and tabs were updated.
Why did I wait so long to do this? I don't know, but I'm glad that I did. Thanks, Tami!
I need to go explore more of the links - especially the ones under "Free" > "United States (US & Individual States)"
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2011/05/tuesdays-tip-relatively-curious.html
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant. If you are reading this on any other genealogy website, then they have stolen my work.
This week's Tuesday's Tip is to: Download and use Tami Glatz's Relatively Curious "Internet Genealogy" Toolbar, and use it to find genealogy resources.
The FREE "Internet Genealogy" Toolbar can be downloaded from http://relativelycurious.ourtoolbar.com/. The screen below shows the Download page:
The download is very quick, and the Toolbar appears on your browser page. The screen shot below shows the "Internet Genealogy" Toolbar on my IE9 browser, just below the Google Toolbar:
The Toolbar has these tabs:
* A Search box (it uses Microsoft Bing)
* Resources (genealogy tools and links by subject, e.g., Cemeteries and Death)
* Free (free genealogy websites, e.g., FamilySearch)
* Subscription (e.g., Ancestry)
* In Print (published resources, e.g., online books, libraries)
* Connect (social network sites, e.g. Facebook)
* Blogs (14 of Tami's faves, including Genea-Musings!)
* Gadgets (utility programs, e.g. TinyURL, Dropbox)
The "Internet Genealogy" Toolbar is a collection of links that genealogists can use to quickly access many of their favorite genealogy websites.
How does the Toolbar work? In the screen above, I clicked on the "Resources" tab and scrolled down to "Military" and a second menu with links to military resources opened. I could click on any one of them, and a new window tab will open to that website. In other words - this Toolbar acts like my Favorites (or Bookmarks in some system). It seems to be much easier to use for many websites than using my bloated Favorites. Note that my Favorites are still available to me on my browser screen.
I sent Tami some links yesterday to add or change on her toolbar, and within an hour or two she had them installed. I clicked on the down arrow on the blue "Internet Genealogy" on the left of the Toolbar and clicked on "Refresh Toolbar" and the Toolbar links and tabs were updated.
Why did I wait so long to do this? I don't know, but I'm glad that I did. Thanks, Tami!
I need to go explore more of the links - especially the ones under "Free" > "United States (US & Individual States)"
The URL for this post is: http://www.geneamusings.com/2011/05/tuesdays-tip-relatively-curious.html
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant. If you are reading this on any other genealogy website, then they have stolen my work.
Monday, May 30, 2011
Celebrating Their Service - Adding Footnote Pages
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I decided to add some Footnote Pages to commemorate the service of my ancestors who were in the military. Footnote Pages are FREE for anyone to add to the www.footnote.com/pages/ collection. Anyone can create a Footnote Page and add content (facts, images, stories, videos, links, etc.) to them. Footnote has "seeded" their collection with persons in the Social security Death Index and the WW II Army Enlistment Records. If you search for a person on Footnote Pages, there will be a Page for that person if they were in those two collections.
The Footnote Pages that I had created previously for my soldiers and sailors included:
1) Frederick Walton Seaver (1911-1983, my father):
2) Lyle Lawrence Carringer (1891-1976, my grandfather):
3) Isaac Seaver (1823-1901, my second great-grandfather):
4) Isaac Buck (1757-1846, my fourth great-grandfather):
I added three more today - Norman Seaver (1734-1787), Benjamin Seaver (1757-1816) and Martin Carringer (1758-1835), all Revolutionary War Soldiers.
Unfortunately, they haven't shown up yet on Footnote.com (I hope that they were submitted, I spent a lot of time entering data and adding a story). When they appear, I will edit this post and add them.
One thing I don't understand is why the Facts for Isaac Seaver don't show on the Footnote Page. The third image above shows a blank area, but I know that I entered the data at least twice.
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant. If you are reading this on any other genealogy website, then they have stolen my work.
I decided to add some Footnote Pages to commemorate the service of my ancestors who were in the military. Footnote Pages are FREE for anyone to add to the www.footnote.com/pages/ collection. Anyone can create a Footnote Page and add content (facts, images, stories, videos, links, etc.) to them. Footnote has "seeded" their collection with persons in the Social security Death Index and the WW II Army Enlistment Records. If you search for a person on Footnote Pages, there will be a Page for that person if they were in those two collections.
The Footnote Pages that I had created previously for my soldiers and sailors included:
1) Frederick Walton Seaver (1911-1983, my father):
2) Lyle Lawrence Carringer (1891-1976, my grandfather):
3) Isaac Seaver (1823-1901, my second great-grandfather):
4) Isaac Buck (1757-1846, my fourth great-grandfather):
I added three more today - Norman Seaver (1734-1787), Benjamin Seaver (1757-1816) and Martin Carringer (1758-1835), all Revolutionary War Soldiers.
Unfortunately, they haven't shown up yet on Footnote.com (I hope that they were submitted, I spent a lot of time entering data and adding a story). When they appear, I will edit this post and add them.
One thing I don't understand is why the Facts for Isaac Seaver don't show on the Footnote Page. The third image above shows a blank area, but I know that I entered the data at least twice.
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant. If you are reading this on any other genealogy website, then they have stolen my work.
Amanuensis Monday: "Tribute Paid to Hero's Worth" - Kenneth L. Blanchard
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I found this tribute to my first cousin twice removed, Kenneth L. Blanchard (1891-1918), who died in France after the Armistice of World War I, in the Ancestry.com collection of California, World War I Death Announcements, 1918-1921. It appeared in the Oakland (California) Tribune newspaper, dated 16 February 1919:
The tribute transcribed is:
"TRIBUTE PAID TO HERO'S WORTH
BERKELEY, Feb. 15. -- Tribute to the worth of Lieutenant Kenneth L. Blanchard, well known graduate of the University of California with the class of 1914, are coupled with details of his death in France in a letter just reaching Professor Charles Mills Gayley of the University from Harold A. Hyde, member of the American expeditionary forces and U.C. graduate in 1917.
"Lieutenant Blanchard died in France December 14 from influenza after having faced fire on countless occasions at the front. Hyde's tribute to him is paid in the following letter sent from Ferrieres, France:
"'I feel that I must snatch a few moments to write you of the death of Kenneth L. Blanchard, U.C. 1914, 1st Lieutenant, U.S.A., Ambulance Service - and a worthy Californian.'
"ROSE RAPIDLY
"'It was my privilege to serve with 'Ken,' as we loved to call him, when he was a first sergeant and again when he was adjutant of this camp. He left California in June, 1917, as first sergeant of Section 586, U.S.A. A.S., a section composed of California men. Due chiefly to his ability, his efforts and his personality, this section was one of those selected to accompany Colonel Jones in August with the first overseas contingent.
"'Blanchard's ability was quickly recognized and he was commissioned first lieutenant in December 1917, and went out to the front with Section 604. On the Meuse, on the crowded roads of the Aisne during the busy days of July and August, in the clinging mud of Belgium during the final days he led his section, always careful of his men, jealous of the reputation of Americans and tireless in the service of the French troops to which he was attached. He and his section were richly deserving of the high reputation which they held among the French.'
"DIES SUDDENLY
"'When the armistice was concluded he was called to the base camp of this service to act as adjutant. In the short time that he was there, officers and men alike learned to love him for his unfailing courtesy and to admire him for the fairness of his judgments and the efficiency of his work. He was taken sick very suddenly with the influenza 14th of December. Attended by a few of the officers and men who had crossed the Atlantic with him, he was buried in the American cemetery at Neuilly - just outside of Paris.
"'With those who knew him, his memory will linger long, and his record is one of which his alma mater may well be proud. A soldier in his patriotism and his bravery, yet a civilian in his ambitions and his thought, he was a true Californian - loyal to the end and faithful unto death.'"
My earlier post about Kenneth Blanchard was "The "Forrest Gump Principle of Genealogy Research" strikes again" where I learned that the National City (California, his home town) American Legion post had been named after him in 1921.
I did not have Kenneth's death date in my database, so I've added it, and this tribute to him, to his entry. I now know his burial location, and added it. I wish I had a picture of him. Now I know more about Kenneth's service, and I honor him on this Memorial Day.
Thank you for your service, cousin Kenneth L. Blanchard (1891-1918).
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant. If you are reading this on any other genealogy website, then they have stolen my work.
I found this tribute to my first cousin twice removed, Kenneth L. Blanchard (1891-1918), who died in France after the Armistice of World War I, in the Ancestry.com collection of California, World War I Death Announcements, 1918-1921. It appeared in the Oakland (California) Tribune newspaper, dated 16 February 1919:
The tribute transcribed is:
"TRIBUTE PAID TO HERO'S WORTH
BERKELEY, Feb. 15. -- Tribute to the worth of Lieutenant Kenneth L. Blanchard, well known graduate of the University of California with the class of 1914, are coupled with details of his death in France in a letter just reaching Professor Charles Mills Gayley of the University from Harold A. Hyde, member of the American expeditionary forces and U.C. graduate in 1917.
"Lieutenant Blanchard died in France December 14 from influenza after having faced fire on countless occasions at the front. Hyde's tribute to him is paid in the following letter sent from Ferrieres, France:
"'I feel that I must snatch a few moments to write you of the death of Kenneth L. Blanchard, U.C. 1914, 1st Lieutenant, U.S.A., Ambulance Service - and a worthy Californian.'
"ROSE RAPIDLY
"'It was my privilege to serve with 'Ken,' as we loved to call him, when he was a first sergeant and again when he was adjutant of this camp. He left California in June, 1917, as first sergeant of Section 586, U.S.A. A.S., a section composed of California men. Due chiefly to his ability, his efforts and his personality, this section was one of those selected to accompany Colonel Jones in August with the first overseas contingent.
"'Blanchard's ability was quickly recognized and he was commissioned first lieutenant in December 1917, and went out to the front with Section 604. On the Meuse, on the crowded roads of the Aisne during the busy days of July and August, in the clinging mud of Belgium during the final days he led his section, always careful of his men, jealous of the reputation of Americans and tireless in the service of the French troops to which he was attached. He and his section were richly deserving of the high reputation which they held among the French.'
"DIES SUDDENLY
"'When the armistice was concluded he was called to the base camp of this service to act as adjutant. In the short time that he was there, officers and men alike learned to love him for his unfailing courtesy and to admire him for the fairness of his judgments and the efficiency of his work. He was taken sick very suddenly with the influenza 14th of December. Attended by a few of the officers and men who had crossed the Atlantic with him, he was buried in the American cemetery at Neuilly - just outside of Paris.
"'With those who knew him, his memory will linger long, and his record is one of which his alma mater may well be proud. A soldier in his patriotism and his bravery, yet a civilian in his ambitions and his thought, he was a true Californian - loyal to the end and faithful unto death.'"
My earlier post about Kenneth Blanchard was "The "Forrest Gump Principle of Genealogy Research" strikes again" where I learned that the National City (California, his home town) American Legion post had been named after him in 1921.
I did not have Kenneth's death date in my database, so I've added it, and this tribute to him, to his entry. I now know his burial location, and added it. I wish I had a picture of him. Now I know more about Kenneth's service, and I honor him on this Memorial Day.
Thank you for your service, cousin Kenneth L. Blanchard (1891-1918).
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant. If you are reading this on any other genealogy website, then they have stolen my work.
Honoring my Ancestors who Served
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On Memorial Day, we honor those who have served our country and have given their lives so that we can remain free.
My known ancestors who have served in the military since the Revolutionary War include:
1. World War II
* Frederick W. Seaver (1911-1983, my father) served in the United States Navy aboard the USS Halford. The picture is from 1944.

2. World War I
* Lyle L. Carringer (1891-1976, my grandfather) served in the United States Marines in San Diego. The picture is from 1917.

3. Civil War
* Isaac Seaver (1823-1901, my great-great-grandfather) of Leominster MA, a blacksmith, served in the Union Army (Civil War Pension File). The picture is from the collection of my aunt Geraldine (Seaver) Remley, and depicts Isaac and Lucretia (Smith) Seaver, probably in about 1863.

4. War of 1812
* Amos Underhill (1772-1865) of Aurora NY served in the NY Militia.
5. Revolutionary War
* Martin Carringer (1758-1835) of Mercer County PA (RevWaw Pension file)
* Philip Row (1752-1817) of Hunterdon County NJ (RevWar Pension File)
* Peter Putman (1760-1835) of NJ and Yates County NY (RevWar Pension file)
* Stephen Feather (17??-1804) of NJ and Westmoreland County PA
* Rudolf Spengler (1738-1811) of York County PA
* Philip Jacob King (1738-1792) of York County PA
* Burgess Metcalf (1741-1816) of Piermont NH
* Isaac Buck (1757-1846) of Sterling MA (RevWar Pension File)
* Thomas Dill (1755-1830) of Eastham MA (RevWar Pension File)
* Joseph Champlin (1758-1850) of S. Kingston RI (RevWar Pension File)
* Norman Seaver (1734-1787) of Westminster MA
* Benjamin Seaver (1757-1816) of Westminster MA
* Zachariah Hildreth (1728-1784) of Westford MA
* Zachariah Hildreth (1754-1828) of Townsend MA
* Amos Plimpton (1735-1808) of Medfield MA
* David Kirby (1740-1832) of Westport MA
* Joseph Oatley (1756-1815) of S. Kingston RI.
Amazingly, each of them survived their wartime experiences. I thank God for these men, the families that nurtured them, the wives that supported them, and the children who learned from them the importance of service to their country.
I continue to pray for the health and safety of all of our armed forces personnel, for the wisdom and perseverance of our leaders, and for the patience and understanding of our citizens as we continue the battle to keep America safe and free.
May God continue to bless the United States of America.
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant. If you are reading this on any other genealogy website, then they have stolen my work.
On Memorial Day, we honor those who have served our country and have given their lives so that we can remain free.
My known ancestors who have served in the military since the Revolutionary War include:
1. World War II
* Frederick W. Seaver (1911-1983, my father) served in the United States Navy aboard the USS Halford. The picture is from 1944.

2. World War I
* Lyle L. Carringer (1891-1976, my grandfather) served in the United States Marines in San Diego. The picture is from 1917.

3. Civil War
* Isaac Seaver (1823-1901, my great-great-grandfather) of Leominster MA, a blacksmith, served in the Union Army (Civil War Pension File). The picture is from the collection of my aunt Geraldine (Seaver) Remley, and depicts Isaac and Lucretia (Smith) Seaver, probably in about 1863.

4. War of 1812
* Amos Underhill (1772-1865) of Aurora NY served in the NY Militia.
5. Revolutionary War
* Martin Carringer (1758-1835) of Mercer County PA (RevWaw Pension file)
* Philip Row (1752-1817) of Hunterdon County NJ (RevWar Pension File)
* Peter Putman (1760-1835) of NJ and Yates County NY (RevWar Pension file)
* Stephen Feather (17??-1804) of NJ and Westmoreland County PA
* Rudolf Spengler (1738-1811) of York County PA
* Philip Jacob King (1738-1792) of York County PA
* Burgess Metcalf (1741-1816) of Piermont NH
* Isaac Buck (1757-1846) of Sterling MA (RevWar Pension File)
* Thomas Dill (1755-1830) of Eastham MA (RevWar Pension File)
* Joseph Champlin (1758-1850) of S. Kingston RI (RevWar Pension File)
* Norman Seaver (1734-1787) of Westminster MA
* Benjamin Seaver (1757-1816) of Westminster MA
* Zachariah Hildreth (1728-1784) of Westford MA
* Zachariah Hildreth (1754-1828) of Townsend MA
* Amos Plimpton (1735-1808) of Medfield MA
* David Kirby (1740-1832) of Westport MA
* Joseph Oatley (1756-1815) of S. Kingston RI.
Amazingly, each of them survived their wartime experiences. I thank God for these men, the families that nurtured them, the wives that supported them, and the children who learned from them the importance of service to their country.
I continue to pray for the health and safety of all of our armed forces personnel, for the wisdom and perseverance of our leaders, and for the patience and understanding of our citizens as we continue the battle to keep America safe and free.
May God continue to bless the United States of America.
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant. If you are reading this on any other genealogy website, then they have stolen my work.
Sunday, May 29, 2011
My First Look at AncestorSync (Pre-Beta Version)
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After receiving the answers about AncestorSync last week (see AncestorSync is coming - I got answers!), Dovy Paukstys of Real-Time Collaboration asked if I would like to be part of the Beta testing for the program. I agreed to it, and he sent me the link yesterday.
I had some time to work with it today, and Dovy agreed that I could share the experience with my readers. This is a Pre-Beta version, and it only permits a download from Geni.com to a genealogy software file at this time, but it works. A Beta version will be unveiled and demonstrated at the SCGS Genealogy Jamboree on 10 June in Burbank. I'll be there!
After downloading and installing the software (it is an executable file), I opened it, logged into Geni.com to my account using AncestorSync, and the first screen was:
The window above has four potential actions - "Download a Personal Copy," "One-Time Synchronization," "Automatic Synchronizing," or "Share With Someone." Only the first one - "Download a Personal Copy" is available at this time in the program development. However, the screen above does provide a window into future opportunities and capabilities.
My family tree file on Geni.com is relatively small (I have only a Free account) - I uploaded a GEDCOM file with six generations of ancestral families in 2009. However, some of my persons in the Geni tree have been linked to earlier generations by myself and other researchers, so there should be "more" persons in the downloaded file than I submitted to Geni.com..
I clicked on the "Download a Personal Copy" button - which will "Download a brand new file for the program of your choice from your data on Geni.com" - and saw:
In the screen above, I could choose the number of generations "Back (Ancestors)" from me (I chose 9, the maximum was 10), the number "Forward (Descendants)" (I chose 0), and the "Breadth" - the choices were "Direct Ancestors and Descendants Only," " + Children", "+ Children and Spouses," "+ Grandchildren" or "+ Grandchildren and Spouses." I chose "+ Grandchildren and Spouses." There was also check boxes to select download of Documents, Photos and videos.
I clicked on the green "Save and Select Program" button on the screen above. The next screen shows:
The screen above is where the user selects the program file type for the download. The choices currently available are Ancestral quest, Legacy, Personal Ancestral File, RootsMagic and Gedcom. I selected RootsMagic and Gedcom, and specified file names for the files in those formats. There are check boxes for "Automatically keep in sync" - I checked them.
Note that AncestorSync will download to the native format of the programs selected. I expect to obtain a RootsMagic 4 file (.rmgc file) and a GEDCOM file (.ged) from this download. I clicked on the green "Finish and Begin Download" button.
The download began with this screen:
The blue and white graphic was constantly changing. After several seconds, the download of persons from Geni.com began. The system gave me about ten names at once. Here is a screen showing the download in process:
The first time I tried, the download ended with an error message after about ten minutes. I decided to try it again, and this time the download was successful. It took over 70 minutes to download the persons that I had requested.
I was curious as to how many persons were in the file, so I opened Legacy Family Tree 7.5 to import the GEDCOM file and to see the results. It created a new Legacy file with the Geni.com family tree information. Here is the Legacy screen after the GEDCOM file import:
There are 1,269 individuals, 548 families and 0 sources in the imported file. There were no Notes either. I did not have documents, photos or videos attached to my Geni.com persons. If the download was 70 minutes, then that's approximately 18 persons per minute. I'm glad it wasn't a large file!
I need to check the RootsMagic file also, and compare the downloaded data with the information is on Geni.com, and what is in the GEDCOM file that I uploaded to Geni.com back in 2009.
Tamura Jones on the Modern Software Experience website has three articles with information about AncestorSync (including screens similar to mine above) in:
* AncestorSync: Sign of the Times
* AncestorSync versus GenBridge
* How AncestorSync Works
* AncestorSync Beta
Please read Tamura's articles for more information about AncestorSync and how it fits into the grand scheme of genealogy software. [Note - Users that do not use Internet Explorer 8 and earlier should be able to read Tamura's site without difficulty. I recently upgraded to Internet Explorer 9 and now can read his site!]
If you have questions or comments about what you've seen of AncestorSync so far, please ask them in email (rjseaver@cox.net), or in comments, and I'll pass them to Dovy Paukstys.
Stay tuned - there is more to come. The Geni.com webinar held on Saturday, 28 May, featuring AncestorSync is not yet on their website (www.GeniWebinars.com) - when it is, I'll like to it here.
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you are reading this on any other blog, then they have stolen my work. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant.
After receiving the answers about AncestorSync last week (see AncestorSync is coming - I got answers!), Dovy Paukstys of Real-Time Collaboration asked if I would like to be part of the Beta testing for the program. I agreed to it, and he sent me the link yesterday.
I had some time to work with it today, and Dovy agreed that I could share the experience with my readers. This is a Pre-Beta version, and it only permits a download from Geni.com to a genealogy software file at this time, but it works. A Beta version will be unveiled and demonstrated at the SCGS Genealogy Jamboree on 10 June in Burbank. I'll be there!
After downloading and installing the software (it is an executable file), I opened it, logged into Geni.com to my account using AncestorSync, and the first screen was:
The window above has four potential actions - "Download a Personal Copy," "One-Time Synchronization," "Automatic Synchronizing," or "Share With Someone." Only the first one - "Download a Personal Copy" is available at this time in the program development. However, the screen above does provide a window into future opportunities and capabilities.
My family tree file on Geni.com is relatively small (I have only a Free account) - I uploaded a GEDCOM file with six generations of ancestral families in 2009. However, some of my persons in the Geni tree have been linked to earlier generations by myself and other researchers, so there should be "more" persons in the downloaded file than I submitted to Geni.com..
I clicked on the "Download a Personal Copy" button - which will "Download a brand new file for the program of your choice from your data on Geni.com" - and saw:
In the screen above, I could choose the number of generations "Back (Ancestors)" from me (I chose 9, the maximum was 10), the number "Forward (Descendants)" (I chose 0), and the "Breadth" - the choices were "Direct Ancestors and Descendants Only," " + Children", "+ Children and Spouses," "+ Grandchildren" or "+ Grandchildren and Spouses." I chose "+ Grandchildren and Spouses." There was also check boxes to select download of Documents, Photos and videos.
I clicked on the green "Save and Select Program" button on the screen above. The next screen shows:
The screen above is where the user selects the program file type for the download. The choices currently available are Ancestral quest, Legacy, Personal Ancestral File, RootsMagic and Gedcom. I selected RootsMagic and Gedcom, and specified file names for the files in those formats. There are check boxes for "Automatically keep in sync" - I checked them.
Note that AncestorSync will download to the native format of the programs selected. I expect to obtain a RootsMagic 4 file (.rmgc file) and a GEDCOM file (.ged) from this download. I clicked on the green "Finish and Begin Download" button.
The download began with this screen:
The blue and white graphic was constantly changing. After several seconds, the download of persons from Geni.com began. The system gave me about ten names at once. Here is a screen showing the download in process:
The first time I tried, the download ended with an error message after about ten minutes. I decided to try it again, and this time the download was successful. It took over 70 minutes to download the persons that I had requested.
I was curious as to how many persons were in the file, so I opened Legacy Family Tree 7.5 to import the GEDCOM file and to see the results. It created a new Legacy file with the Geni.com family tree information. Here is the Legacy screen after the GEDCOM file import:
There are 1,269 individuals, 548 families and 0 sources in the imported file. There were no Notes either. I did not have documents, photos or videos attached to my Geni.com persons. If the download was 70 minutes, then that's approximately 18 persons per minute. I'm glad it wasn't a large file!
I need to check the RootsMagic file also, and compare the downloaded data with the information is on Geni.com, and what is in the GEDCOM file that I uploaded to Geni.com back in 2009.
Tamura Jones on the Modern Software Experience website has three articles with information about AncestorSync (including screens similar to mine above) in:
* AncestorSync: Sign of the Times
* AncestorSync versus GenBridge
* How AncestorSync Works
* AncestorSync Beta
Please read Tamura's articles for more information about AncestorSync and how it fits into the grand scheme of genealogy software. [Note - Users that do not use Internet Explorer 8 and earlier should be able to read Tamura's site without difficulty. I recently upgraded to Internet Explorer 9 and now can read his site!]
If you have questions or comments about what you've seen of AncestorSync so far, please ask them in email (rjseaver@cox.net), or in comments, and I'll pass them to Dovy Paukstys.
Stay tuned - there is more to come. The Geni.com webinar held on Saturday, 28 May, featuring AncestorSync is not yet on their website (www.GeniWebinars.com) - when it is, I'll like to it here.
(c) 2011. Randall J. Seaver. All Rights Reserved. If you are reading this on any other blog, then they have stolen my work. If you wish to re-publish my content, please contact me for permission, which I will usually grant.
Best of the Genea-Blogs - 22 to 28 May 2011
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Hundreds of genealogy and family history bloggers write thousands of posts every week about their research, their families, and their interests. I appreciate each one of them and their efforts.
My criteria for "Best of ..." are pretty simple - I pick posts that advance knowledge about genealogy and family history, address current genealogy issues, provide personal family history, are funny or are poignant. I don't list posts destined for the genealogy carnivals, or other meme submissions (but I do include summaries of them), or my own posts.
Here are my picks for great reads from the genealogy blogs for this past week:
* Are You Making Full Use of Find A Grave? by Susan Petersen on the Long Lost Relatives.net blog. Susan highlights features that Find-a-Grave offers. Interesting and helpful post.
* Non-traditional Genealogical Data Sources by James Tanner on the Genealogy's Star blog. James highlights some of the online and paper resources that genealogists miss by not using university libraries.
* Should I Join My Local Genealogy Society? by Amy Coffin on The The We Tree Genealogy Blog. I agree with amy, yes! She has excellent reasons.
* Historical Societies: An Easy Way to Strike Gold by Marian Pierre-Louis on the New England House Historian blog. Marian' has lots of experience with historical societies - check out her examples here.
* Beyond the Little Green Leaf: Proving the maiden name of Elizabeth (Clark) Preston (1760-1807) by GeneJ on the They Came Before blog. I love research stories - in this one GeneJ goes to the original source to find the maiden name of her ancestor. Excellent work!
* Decoding an Ancestor's Y-Chromosome DNA Signature by Dave Dowell on the Dr. D. Digs Up Ancestors blog. I love DNA research stories - here's Dave's latest summary of his own Y-DNA tests.
* Auto-Tweeting: Making Presentations Interactive Again - Part1 and Part 2 by Anne Roach on the TechnoGenealogist blog. I didn't know you could do this...pretty cool. Good thoughts on making presentations, too.
* Cardboard Cutouts or Real People? by Jill Ball on the Geniaus blog. Jill has suggestions for speakers at societies and conferences - are you listening? I'm getting a message here...
* How do people learn, and how should we teach? by Michael Hait on the Planting the Seed blog. Michael reviews the subject, and links to an interesting presentation. I'm still getting a message here...
* Shades and The OverStuffed Baby Make A Connection and The Overstuffed Baby Comes Full Circle! by footnoteMaven on the Shades of the Departed blog. fM posted a photo some time ago with a name, and the granddaughter contacted her with lots more information about the grandmother's life. Blogging works!
* FOUND by Brenda Dougall Merriman on the Brenda Dougall Merriman blog. Another "geneablogging works" example - Greta Koehl got a photographer's stamp translated for Brenda, who figured out the subject's name.
* Information Your Genealogist Needs by Mary Douglass on the Notes That Matter blog. Mary brings genealogical research to a very simple level - who, what, when, where, how and why! I wish I'd thought of that.
* Ancestry.com's Search Comments, etc.by Michael John Neill on the Rootdig.com blog. Michael offers his suggestions. It illustrates well that we all do database searching a little differently - and havel ikes and dislikes.
Several other genea-bloggers wrote weekly pick posts this week, including:
* Follow Friday: This Week’s Favorite Finds by Jen on the Climbing My Family Tree blog.
* Follow Friday Newsletter: 27 May 2011 by Greta Koehl on Greta's Genealogy Bog blog.
* Best Bytes for the Week of May 27, 2011 by Elizabeth O'Neal on the Little Bytes of Life blog.
Did I miss a great genealogy blog post? Tell me! I am currently reading posts from over 920 genealogy bloggers using Google Reader, but I still miss quite a few it seems.
Read past Best of the Genea-Blogs posts here.
Hundreds of genealogy and family history bloggers write thousands of posts every week about their research, their families, and their interests. I appreciate each one of them and their efforts.
My criteria for "Best of ..." are pretty simple - I pick posts that advance knowledge about genealogy and family history, address current genealogy issues, provide personal family history, are funny or are poignant. I don't list posts destined for the genealogy carnivals, or other meme submissions (but I do include summaries of them), or my own posts.
Here are my picks for great reads from the genealogy blogs for this past week:
* Are You Making Full Use of Find A Grave? by Susan Petersen on the Long Lost Relatives.net blog. Susan highlights features that Find-a-Grave offers. Interesting and helpful post.
* Non-traditional Genealogical Data Sources by James Tanner on the Genealogy's Star blog. James highlights some of the online and paper resources that genealogists miss by not using university libraries.
* Should I Join My Local Genealogy Society? by Amy Coffin on The The We Tree Genealogy Blog. I agree with amy, yes! She has excellent reasons.
* Historical Societies: An Easy Way to Strike Gold by Marian Pierre-Louis on the New England House Historian blog. Marian' has lots of experience with historical societies - check out her examples here.
* Beyond the Little Green Leaf: Proving the maiden name of Elizabeth (Clark) Preston (1760-1807) by GeneJ on the They Came Before blog. I love research stories - in this one GeneJ goes to the original source to find the maiden name of her ancestor. Excellent work!
* Decoding an Ancestor's Y-Chromosome DNA Signature by Dave Dowell on the Dr. D. Digs Up Ancestors blog. I love DNA research stories - here's Dave's latest summary of his own Y-DNA tests.
* Auto-Tweeting: Making Presentations Interactive Again - Part1 and Part 2 by Anne Roach on the TechnoGenealogist blog. I didn't know you could do this...pretty cool. Good thoughts on making presentations, too.
* Cardboard Cutouts or Real People? by Jill Ball on the Geniaus blog. Jill has suggestions for speakers at societies and conferences - are you listening? I'm getting a message here...
* How do people learn, and how should we teach? by Michael Hait on the Planting the Seed blog. Michael reviews the subject, and links to an interesting presentation. I'm still getting a message here...
* Shades and The OverStuffed Baby Make A Connection and The Overstuffed Baby Comes Full Circle! by footnoteMaven on the Shades of the Departed blog. fM posted a photo some time ago with a name, and the granddaughter contacted her with lots more information about the grandmother's life. Blogging works!
* FOUND by Brenda Dougall Merriman on the Brenda Dougall Merriman blog. Another "geneablogging works" example - Greta Koehl got a photographer's stamp translated for Brenda, who figured out the subject's name.
* Information Your Genealogist Needs by Mary Douglass on the Notes That Matter blog. Mary brings genealogical research to a very simple level - who, what, when, where, how and why! I wish I'd thought of that.
* Ancestry.com's Search Comments, etc.by Michael John Neill on the Rootdig.com blog. Michael offers his suggestions. It illustrates well that we all do database searching a little differently - and havel ikes and dislikes.
Several other genea-bloggers wrote weekly pick posts this week, including:
* Follow Friday: This Week’s Favorite Finds by Jen on the Climbing My Family Tree blog.
* Follow Friday Newsletter: 27 May 2011 by Greta Koehl on Greta's Genealogy Bog blog.
* Best Bytes for the Week of May 27, 2011 by Elizabeth O'Neal on the Little Bytes of Life blog.
I encourage readers to go to the blogs listed above and read their articles, and add their blogs to your Favorites, Google Reader, RSS feed or email if you like what you read. Please make a comment to them also - all bloggers appreciate feedback on what they write.
Did I miss a great genealogy blog post? Tell me! I am currently reading posts from over 920 genealogy bloggers using Google Reader, but I still miss quite a few it seems.
Read past Best of the Genea-Blogs posts here.
Saturday, May 28, 2011
Saturday Night Genealogy Fun - It's Find-a-Grave Time
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Hey genea-searchers, it's SATURDAY NIGHT ... time for more GENEALOGY FUN!!!
Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to:
1) Go to the Find-a-Grave website (www.findagrave.com) and search for ancestors that you don't know the burial location of. How far back in time did you have to go to find this person? Hint #1 - use your ancestor list to help you. Hint #2 - don't forget to use the last surname for females!
2) If you think that Find-a-Grave will not have your persons of interest, then check another burial index that might help you.
3) Tell us about your search - who did you look for, and who was the first ancestor that you found that you did not have a burial location for previously? Write your own blog post, or make a comment on this post.
Here's mine (in Find-a-Grave):
The first persons on my ancestral list that I don't have a Burial location for in my genealogy database are:
#29. Sarah G. (Knapp) Auble (1818-after 1900), died in Indiana or Illinois? No listing.
#38. Thomas J. Newton (before 1800 - after1835), died ???? No listing.
#39. Sophia (Buck) (Brigham) (Newton) Stone (1797-1882), died Westborough MA. No listing.
#40. John Richman (1788-1867), died in Hilperton, England. No listing.
#41. Ann (Marshman) Richman (1784-1856), died in Hilperton, England. No listing.
#42. John Rich (1793-1868), died in Hilperton, England. No listing.
#43. Rebecca (Hill) Rich (1790-1862), died Hilperton, England.
#44. Jonathan White (1806-1850), died in Killingly CT.
SUCCESS!! There's a Find-a-Grave listing for him in the White-Chace Lot in Glocester, Providence County, Rhode Island. Unfortunately, there are no photographs of the cemetery or the grave.
#45. Miranda (Wade) White (1804-1850) is also listed in this cemetery, along with a number of other White surnamed persons related to Jonathan.
That's as far as I went, but there are plenty of other good potentials on my ancestor list to find using this technique.
Hey genea-searchers, it's SATURDAY NIGHT ... time for more GENEALOGY FUN!!!
Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to:
1) Go to the Find-a-Grave website (www.findagrave.com) and search for ancestors that you don't know the burial location of. How far back in time did you have to go to find this person? Hint #1 - use your ancestor list to help you. Hint #2 - don't forget to use the last surname for females!
2) If you think that Find-a-Grave will not have your persons of interest, then check another burial index that might help you.
3) Tell us about your search - who did you look for, and who was the first ancestor that you found that you did not have a burial location for previously? Write your own blog post, or make a comment on this post.
Here's mine (in Find-a-Grave):
The first persons on my ancestral list that I don't have a Burial location for in my genealogy database are:
#29. Sarah G. (Knapp) Auble (1818-after 1900), died in Indiana or Illinois? No listing.
#38. Thomas J. Newton (before 1800 - after1835), died ???? No listing.
#39. Sophia (Buck) (Brigham) (Newton) Stone (1797-1882), died Westborough MA. No listing.
#40. John Richman (1788-1867), died in Hilperton, England. No listing.
#41. Ann (Marshman) Richman (1784-1856), died in Hilperton, England. No listing.
#42. John Rich (1793-1868), died in Hilperton, England. No listing.
#43. Rebecca (Hill) Rich (1790-1862), died Hilperton, England.
#44. Jonathan White (1806-1850), died in Killingly CT.
SUCCESS!! There's a Find-a-Grave listing for him in the White-Chace Lot in Glocester, Providence County, Rhode Island. Unfortunately, there are no photographs of the cemetery or the grave.
#45. Miranda (Wade) White (1804-1850) is also listed in this cemetery, along with a number of other White surnamed persons related to Jonathan.
That's as far as I went, but there are plenty of other good potentials on my ancestor list to find using this technique.
Surname Saturday - GACH/GAGE (??? > New Jersey)
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It's Surname Saturday, and I'm "counting down" my Ancestral Name List each week. I am up to number 239, who is Martha Gach (1729-????), another of my 5th-great-grandmothers. [Note: The 5th great-grandfathers have been covered in earlier posts].
My ancestral line back to Martha Gach and two more Gage generations is:
1. Randall Jeffrey Seaver (1943-....)
2. Frederick Walton Seaver (1911-1983)
3. Betty Virginia Carringer (1919-2002)
6. Lyle Lawrence Carringer (1891-1976)
14. Charles Auble (1849-1916)
15. Georgianna Kemp (1868-1952)
28. Daniel Auble (1817-1894)
29. Sarah Knapp (1818-ca1900)
58. William Knapp (1775-1856)
59. Sarah Cutter (1785-1878)
118. Stephen Cutter (1757-1823)
119. Tabitha Randolph (ca 1750-1841)
238. Samuel Fitz Randolph, born about 1730 in Blazing Star, Richmond, New York, United States. He was the son of 476. Jacob Fitz Randolph and 477. (unknown). He married 20 October 1750 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
239. Martha Gach, born 29 November 1729 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
Children of Samuel Fitz Randolph and Martha Gach are:
i. Tabitha Randolph, born before 06 September 1761 in Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, United States; died 26 November 1841 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Stephen Cutter about 1769 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
ii. Mary Fitz Randolph, born before 06 September 1761 in Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, United States.
478. Thomas Gach, born 1702 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died before 09 March 1770 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States. He married 17 August 1721 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
479. Elizabeth Bloodgood, born 29 May 1703 in Flushing, Queens, New York, United States. She was the daughter of 958. John Bloetgoet and 959. Mary Morgan.
Children of Thomas Gach and Elizabeth Bloodgood are:
i. Elizabeth Gach, born 01 June 1722 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died 07 July 1724 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
ii. Mary Gach, born 01 February 1723/24 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married James Eddy about 29 May 1743 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
iii. Elizabeth Gach, born 30 March 1726 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Elisha Inslee 18 May 1744 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States, born 1 June 1722 in New Jersey, United States; died 1751.
iv. John Gach, born 1727 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died after 1770; married Sarah Dunham.
v. Sarah Gach, born 25 December 1727 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Nathaniel Pike about 16 September 1747 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; born 25 December 1727 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died October 1766 in New Jersey, United States.
vi. Martha Gach, born 29 November 1729 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Samuel Fitz Randolph 20 October 1750 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
vii. Anna Gach, born 18 December 1732 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Isaac Dunham; born about 1737 in Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died 1802 in Sterling Grant, New Brunswick, Canada.
viii. Thomas Gach, born about 1735 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Keturah Clawson 24 December 1759 in New Jersey, United States.
ix. Catherine Gach, born about 1737 in Hunterdon, New Jersey, United States; married Michael Toyin.
x. Martin Gach, born about 1739 in Burlington, Burlington, New Jersey, United States; married Ann Johnson 27 December 1766 in New Jersey, United States.
xi. Esther Gach, born 1741 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died before 1763 in New Jersey, United States; married Joseph Shotwell.
xii. Phillip Gach, born 1744 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Jennet Pike; born 1748 in New Jersey, United States; died 1821.
956. Thomas Gage, born about 1660; died before 23 April 1703 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States. He married about 1698 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
957. Elizabeth Hunt, born about 1656 in probably Westchester, New York, United States; died 03 November 1747 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
Children of Thomas Gage and Elizabeth Hunt are:
i. Mary Gach, born about 1700 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died 28 June 1760 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married William Bloodgood 16 March 1725/26 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; born about 1698 in Flushing, Queens, New York, United States; died before 22 March 1756 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
ii. Thomas Gach, born 1702 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died before 09 March 1770 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Elizabeth Bloodgood 17 August 1721 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
The parentage of Thomas Gage is uncertain. The book "John Gage of Ipswich, Mass. and His Descendants" compiled by Clyde V. Gage, published 1964 (accessed on www.ancestry.com) says that he was the son of Jonathan and Hester (Chandler) Gage of Bradford MA. A birth date of 1680? is claimed for Thomas, but that places him well after the death of Jonathan Gage in 1674/5, and has him marrying a woman over 20 years his senior in 1700.
It is apparent that this Thomas Gage is much more likely that Thomas Gage was born in the 1655 to 1660 time frame in an unknown place. He might have been a brother or cousin of Jonathan Gage, whose widow Hester (Chandler) Gage married John Wilson and resided in Woodbridge, New Jersey after 1680.
There is a sketch for John Gage (1605-1673) in the book Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-33, but it doesn't mention a Thomas Gage, and Thomas is not mentioned in the will of John Gage.
It's Surname Saturday, and I'm "counting down" my Ancestral Name List each week. I am up to number 239, who is Martha Gach (1729-????), another of my 5th-great-grandmothers. [Note: The 5th great-grandfathers have been covered in earlier posts].
My ancestral line back to Martha Gach and two more Gage generations is:
1. Randall Jeffrey Seaver (1943-....)
2. Frederick Walton Seaver (1911-1983)
3. Betty Virginia Carringer (1919-2002)
6. Lyle Lawrence Carringer (1891-1976)
7. Emily Kemp Auble (1899-1977)
14. Charles Auble (1849-1916)
15. Georgianna Kemp (1868-1952)
28. Daniel Auble (1817-1894)
29. Sarah Knapp (1818-ca1900)
58. William Knapp (1775-1856)
59. Sarah Cutter (1785-1878)
118. Stephen Cutter (1757-1823)
119. Tabitha Randolph (ca 1750-1841)
238. Samuel Fitz Randolph, born about 1730 in Blazing Star, Richmond, New York, United States. He was the son of 476. Jacob Fitz Randolph and 477. (unknown). He married 20 October 1750 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
239. Martha Gach, born 29 November 1729 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
Children of Samuel Fitz Randolph and Martha Gach are:
i. Tabitha Randolph, born before 06 September 1761 in Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, United States; died 26 November 1841 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Stephen Cutter about 1769 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
ii. Mary Fitz Randolph, born before 06 September 1761 in Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, United States.
478. Thomas Gach, born 1702 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died before 09 March 1770 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States. He married 17 August 1721 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
479. Elizabeth Bloodgood, born 29 May 1703 in Flushing, Queens, New York, United States. She was the daughter of 958. John Bloetgoet and 959. Mary Morgan.
Children of Thomas Gach and Elizabeth Bloodgood are:
i. Elizabeth Gach, born 01 June 1722 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died 07 July 1724 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
ii. Mary Gach, born 01 February 1723/24 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married James Eddy about 29 May 1743 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
iii. Elizabeth Gach, born 30 March 1726 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Elisha Inslee 18 May 1744 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States, born 1 June 1722 in New Jersey, United States; died 1751.
iv. John Gach, born 1727 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died after 1770; married Sarah Dunham.
v. Sarah Gach, born 25 December 1727 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Nathaniel Pike about 16 September 1747 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; born 25 December 1727 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died October 1766 in New Jersey, United States.
vi. Martha Gach, born 29 November 1729 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Samuel Fitz Randolph 20 October 1750 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
vii. Anna Gach, born 18 December 1732 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Isaac Dunham; born about 1737 in Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died 1802 in Sterling Grant, New Brunswick, Canada.
viii. Thomas Gach, born about 1735 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Keturah Clawson 24 December 1759 in New Jersey, United States.
ix. Catherine Gach, born about 1737 in Hunterdon, New Jersey, United States; married Michael Toyin.
x. Martin Gach, born about 1739 in Burlington, Burlington, New Jersey, United States; married Ann Johnson 27 December 1766 in New Jersey, United States.
xi. Esther Gach, born 1741 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died before 1763 in New Jersey, United States; married Joseph Shotwell.
xii. Phillip Gach, born 1744 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Jennet Pike; born 1748 in New Jersey, United States; died 1821.
956. Thomas Gage, born about 1660; died before 23 April 1703 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States. He married about 1698 in probably Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
957. Elizabeth Hunt, born about 1656 in probably Westchester, New York, United States; died 03 November 1747 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
Children of Thomas Gage and Elizabeth Hunt are:
i. Mary Gach, born about 1700 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died 28 June 1760 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married William Bloodgood 16 March 1725/26 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; born about 1698 in Flushing, Queens, New York, United States; died before 22 March 1756 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
ii. Thomas Gach, born 1702 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; died before 09 March 1770 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States; married Elizabeth Bloodgood 17 August 1721 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States.
The parentage of Thomas Gage is uncertain. The book "John Gage of Ipswich, Mass. and His Descendants" compiled by Clyde V. Gage, published 1964 (accessed on www.ancestry.com) says that he was the son of Jonathan and Hester (Chandler) Gage of Bradford MA. A birth date of 1680? is claimed for Thomas, but that places him well after the death of Jonathan Gage in 1674/5, and has him marrying a woman over 20 years his senior in 1700.
It is apparent that this Thomas Gage is much more likely that Thomas Gage was born in the 1655 to 1660 time frame in an unknown place. He might have been a brother or cousin of Jonathan Gage, whose widow Hester (Chandler) Gage married John Wilson and resided in Woodbridge, New Jersey after 1680.
There is a sketch for John Gage (1605-1673) in the book Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-33, but it doesn't mention a Thomas Gage, and Thomas is not mentioned in the will of John Gage.
Friday, May 27, 2011
Navigating Old and New Search on Ancestry.com - Post 1: New Search, Advanced Form
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In CONFESSION OF A GENEALOGICAL FUDDYDUDDY by Bill West on the West in New England blog, Bill confesses that he prefers the "Old Search" capability on Ancestry.com. Several of his Facebook friends and commenters agree with him. I used to agree with the sentiment.
I understand the frustration, but my opinion is that the sooner all users of Ancestry.com learn how to make the "New Search" on Ancestry.com work for them, the better off they will be. I think that they will eventually come around to my view that "it is the most comprehensive and complex genealogical search engine on the Internet." That's good (comprehensive), and may be bad (complex). I think that everyone should learn how to tame this tiger to get the most out of their genealogical research efforts using their Ancestry.com subscription. Also, it is likely that, at some point, Ancestry.com will streamline their operations and eliminate the "Old Search" forms and search engines. They seem to be hiding "Old Search" better now!
I now use "New Search" exclusively for my research, and demonstrate it in my presentations about effectively searching Ancestry.com. But there are some "secrets" to my searching, which I'll try to share with you here:
1) Ancestry.com "remembers" which search type (Old or New) you are using, and which form (Basic or Advanced) you are using from your last visit. Here is my home page on Ancestry.com (New Search, Advanced Form):
I like the Advanced Search form in New Search because it gives me the flexibility to get a search right the very first time. At this stage of my research life, I usually want to find records for a specific person in a specific place, and know something about the person, like a birth date and a birthplace (even if it's only a state or country).
I almost always search using "Exact search" terms rather than the "Ranked match" search that occurs if I use "Default settings" for first name, last name, place names, etc. On the "Advanced Search" form above, I can check the "Match all search terms exactly" box (upper left-hand corner) and know that all fields will convert to this standard.
I added Isaac Seaver to the name fields on the form above, checked the Exact Match box and hit the "Search" button:
2) The screen above is for the "Summarized by Category" search, which is also my usual preference. The search results are organized by record type, and then by collection within each record type. The key to obtaining the screen above is to select "Summarized by Category" in the dropdown box in the line with the dark green background that starts "Matched 470 in All Categories - View" in the screen above. If I click on the down arrow to the right of the "Summarized by Category," then I can choose the alternative "Sorted by Relevance" screen seen below:
The "Sorted by Relevance" screen provides matches for the requested search in a seemingly random order (which I cannot figure out!). The "Sorted by Relevance" list above for my Isaac Seaver has 385 entries, while the "Summarized by category" screen had 470 matches. I haven't figured that out - why aren't they the same? Without making a list of both of them, and comparing the lists, I can't determine the results order or the reason for fewer results using the "Sorted by Relevance."
Those two differences are why I prefer the "Summarized by category" screen to the "Sorted by relevance" - I like order, and figure that more matches is better than fewer matches.
The Results screens on "New Search" used to have a link to "Go to Old Search" in the upper right-hand corner. They don't now, as you can see on the screens above.
3) How do I get to "Old Search?" The only link I found to do this was when I clicked the "Search" button on the top Ancestry.com menu. The Search page looks like:
Over on the top right-hand side of the screen, right under the Ancestry.com Menu bar, is "Go to Old Search." A link for the "Old Search" in the "Search: tab is http://www.ancestry.com/search/default.aspx. A link for "New Search" in the "Search" tab is http://search.ancestry.com/search/?new=1. If you are going to use "Old Search," then I suggest that you save this post, or bookmark/favorite the URL, or remember that the "Search" button is the way there from "New Search."
As I mentioned, the next time you access the Ancestry.com home page, you will see the home page and search page corresponding to the Search Form (Basic or Advanced) and Search Type (Old or New) that you last used.
As I said - these settings are My Preference. Your preferences may vary, and may work better for you for your research. That's why Ancestry.com has created this comprehensive and complex search engine - to help each of us find the best way to search for historical records, the one that works best.
There are more nuances to Searching Ancestry.com Effectively - and I'll write about them in later posts.
Disclosure: I am not an employee, affiliate or contractor for Ancestry.com, although I have accepted travel expenses and gifts from them in the past. I have a U.S. Deluxe Subscription that I pay for myself.
UPDATED 30 May: deleted the 29 May update.
In CONFESSION OF A GENEALOGICAL FUDDYDUDDY by Bill West on the West in New England blog, Bill confesses that he prefers the "Old Search" capability on Ancestry.com. Several of his Facebook friends and commenters agree with him. I used to agree with the sentiment.
I understand the frustration, but my opinion is that the sooner all users of Ancestry.com learn how to make the "New Search" on Ancestry.com work for them, the better off they will be. I think that they will eventually come around to my view that "it is the most comprehensive and complex genealogical search engine on the Internet." That's good (comprehensive), and may be bad (complex). I think that everyone should learn how to tame this tiger to get the most out of their genealogical research efforts using their Ancestry.com subscription. Also, it is likely that, at some point, Ancestry.com will streamline their operations and eliminate the "Old Search" forms and search engines. They seem to be hiding "Old Search" better now!
I now use "New Search" exclusively for my research, and demonstrate it in my presentations about effectively searching Ancestry.com. But there are some "secrets" to my searching, which I'll try to share with you here:
1) Ancestry.com "remembers" which search type (Old or New) you are using, and which form (Basic or Advanced) you are using from your last visit. Here is my home page on Ancestry.com (New Search, Advanced Form):
I like the Advanced Search form in New Search because it gives me the flexibility to get a search right the very first time. At this stage of my research life, I usually want to find records for a specific person in a specific place, and know something about the person, like a birth date and a birthplace (even if it's only a state or country).
I almost always search using "Exact search" terms rather than the "Ranked match" search that occurs if I use "Default settings" for first name, last name, place names, etc. On the "Advanced Search" form above, I can check the "Match all search terms exactly" box (upper left-hand corner) and know that all fields will convert to this standard.
I added Isaac Seaver to the name fields on the form above, checked the Exact Match box and hit the "Search" button:
2) The screen above is for the "Summarized by Category" search, which is also my usual preference. The search results are organized by record type, and then by collection within each record type. The key to obtaining the screen above is to select "Summarized by Category" in the dropdown box in the line with the dark green background that starts "Matched 470 in All Categories - View" in the screen above. If I click on the down arrow to the right of the "Summarized by Category," then I can choose the alternative "Sorted by Relevance" screen seen below:
The "Sorted by Relevance" screen provides matches for the requested search in a seemingly random order (which I cannot figure out!). The "Sorted by Relevance" list above for my Isaac Seaver has 385 entries, while the "Summarized by category" screen had 470 matches. I haven't figured that out - why aren't they the same? Without making a list of both of them, and comparing the lists, I can't determine the results order or the reason for fewer results using the "Sorted by Relevance."
Those two differences are why I prefer the "Summarized by category" screen to the "Sorted by relevance" - I like order, and figure that more matches is better than fewer matches.
The Results screens on "New Search" used to have a link to "Go to Old Search" in the upper right-hand corner. They don't now, as you can see on the screens above.
3) How do I get to "Old Search?" The only link I found to do this was when I clicked the "Search" button on the top Ancestry.com menu. The Search page looks like:
Over on the top right-hand side of the screen, right under the Ancestry.com Menu bar, is "Go to Old Search." A link for the "Old Search" in the "Search: tab is http://www.ancestry.com/search/default.aspx. A link for "New Search" in the "Search" tab is http://search.ancestry.com/search/?new=1. If you are going to use "Old Search," then I suggest that you save this post, or bookmark/favorite the URL, or remember that the "Search" button is the way there from "New Search."
As I mentioned, the next time you access the Ancestry.com home page, you will see the home page and search page corresponding to the Search Form (Basic or Advanced) and Search Type (Old or New) that you last used.
As I said - these settings are My Preference. Your preferences may vary, and may work better for you for your research. That's why Ancestry.com has created this comprehensive and complex search engine - to help each of us find the best way to search for historical records, the one that works best.
There are more nuances to Searching Ancestry.com Effectively - and I'll write about them in later posts.
Disclosure: I am not an employee, affiliate or contractor for Ancestry.com, although I have accepted travel expenses and gifts from them in the past. I have a U.S. Deluxe Subscription that I pay for myself.
UPDATED 30 May: deleted the 29 May update.
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