Saturday, August 8, 2009
Saturday Night Genealogy Fun - Your 16 Great-Great-Grands
It's almost Saturday Night - time for some Genealogy Fun!
Do you have a pedigree chart that shows you as #1 and goes back five generations? If not, you should make one! Fire up your software program and create a report and save it (you'll see why in am inute!).
Here is your SNGF assignment for the evening (if you choose to accept it - this is not stump the genealogist or even Mission Impossible):
1) List your 16 great-great-grandparents in pedigree chart order. List their birth and death years and places.
2) Figure out the dominant ethnicity or nationality of each of them.
3) Calculate your ancestral ethnicity or nationality by adding them up for the 16 - 6.25% for each (obviously, this is approximate).
4) If you don't know all 16 of your great-great-grandparents, then do it for the last full generation you have.
5) Write your own blog post, or make a comment on Facebook or in this post.
Here's mine:
1. Isaac Seaver: born 16 Oct 1823 in Westminster, Worcester County, MA; married 9 Sep 1851 in Walpole, Norfolk County, MA; died 12 Mar 1901 in Leominster, Worcester County, MA. ENGLISH
2. Lucretia Townsend Smith: born bef 6 Sep 1828 in Medfield, Norfolk County, MA; died 24 Mar 1884 in Leominster, Worcester County, MA. ENGLISH
3. Edward Hildreth: born 30 Apr 1831 in Townsend, Middlesex County, MA; married 25 Dec 1852 in Northborough, Worcester County, MA; died 26 Apr 1899 in Leominster, Worcester County, MA. ENGLISH
4. Sophia Newton: born 14 Sep 1834 in Springfield, Windsor County, VT; died 29 Aug 1923 in Leominster, Worcester County, MA. ENGLISH
5. James Richman\Richmond: born bef 8 Apr 1821 in Hilperton, Wiltshire, ENGLAND; married 7 Sep 1845 in Hilperton, Wiltshire, ENGLAND; died 20 Dec 1912 in Putnam, Windham County, CT. ENGLISH
6. Hannah Rich: born 14 Apr 1824 in Hilperton, Wiltshire, ENGLAND; died 7 Aug 1911 in Putnam, Windham County, CT. ENGLISH
7. Henry A. White: born 1824 in Glocester, Providence County, RI; married 30 Jun 1844 in Thompson, Windham County, CT, (VR); died 1 Aug 1885 in East Killingly, Windham County, CT. ENGLISH
8. Amy Frances Oatley: born 1826 in South Kingstown, Washington County, RI; died bef 1870 in Killingly, Windham County, CT. ENGLISH
9. David Jackson\D.J. Carringer: born 4 Nov 1828 in Greenville, Mercer County, PA; married 16 Oct 1851 in Mercer County, PA; died 20 Jan 1902 in San Diego, San Diego County, CA. GERMAN
10. Rebecca Spangler: born 2 Apr 1832 in Mercer County, PA; died 13 Dec 1901 in San Diego, San Diego County, CA. GERMAN
11. Devier James Lamphear Smith: born 7 May 1839 in Henderson, Jefferson County, NY; married 4 Apr 1861 in Rolling Prairie, Dodge County, WI; died 1 May 1894 in McCook, Red Willow County, NE. ENGLISH ?
12. Abigail A. Vaux: born 28 Oct 1844 in Aurora, Erie County, NY; died 11 Sep 1931 in San Diego, San Diego County, CA. ENGLISH
13. David Auble: born 1817 in Stillwater, Sussex County, NJ; married abt 1844 in Newton, Sussex County, NJ; died 22 Mar 1894 in Terre Haute, Vigo County, IN.
14. Sarah G. Knapp: born Jan 1818 in prob. Woodbridge, Middlesex County, NJ; died aft 1900 in prob. Bushnell, McDonough County, IL.
15. James Abram Kemp: born 22 May 1831 in prob. Hillier, Prince Edward County, Ontario, CANADA; married 10 Mar 1861 in Middleton, Norfolk County, ONTARIO; died 19 Sep 1902 in Delhi, Norfolk County, Ontario, CANADA. ENGLISH
16. Mary Jane Sovereen: born 29 Dec 1840 in prob. Delhi, Norfolk County, ONTARIO; died 20 May 1874 in Middleton, Norfolk County, ONTARIO, CANADA. GERMAN
As far as I can tell, my ethnicity is European (Y-DNA haplogroup is R, mtDNA haplogroup is H).
My "nationalities" are 13 ENGLISH (10 from early colonial New England) and 3 GERMAN - so 81% English, 19% German. Another generation back would add a Dutch line.
This was real easy to do once I made the ahnentafel list in RootsMagic 4. I saved it as an RTF file, and copied/pasted the 5th generation into the post above. Piece of cake!
One of the great things about writing a blog post like this is that now other searchers can find you on the Internet in a search engine.
UPDATED 11 p.m. - That smart blonde Sheri Fenley figured out that there are 16 great-great-grands not 16 great-grands like I originally posted. You know, it's easy to spell check but harder to content check! Sheri gets an A+ if she posts her 16 GGGP. Some of the bloggers posted their 16 GGGPs and noted the fact, my challenge notwithstanding.
Do you have a pedigree chart that shows you as #1 and goes back five generations? If not, you should make one! Fire up your software program and create a report and save it (you'll see why in am inute!).
Here is your SNGF assignment for the evening (if you choose to accept it - this is not stump the genealogist or even Mission Impossible):
1) List your 16 great-great-grandparents in pedigree chart order. List their birth and death years and places.
2) Figure out the dominant ethnicity or nationality of each of them.
3) Calculate your ancestral ethnicity or nationality by adding them up for the 16 - 6.25% for each (obviously, this is approximate).
4) If you don't know all 16 of your great-great-grandparents, then do it for the last full generation you have.
5) Write your own blog post, or make a comment on Facebook or in this post.
Here's mine:
1. Isaac Seaver: born 16 Oct 1823 in Westminster, Worcester County, MA; married 9 Sep 1851 in Walpole, Norfolk County, MA; died 12 Mar 1901 in Leominster, Worcester County, MA. ENGLISH
2. Lucretia Townsend Smith: born bef 6 Sep 1828 in Medfield, Norfolk County, MA; died 24 Mar 1884 in Leominster, Worcester County, MA. ENGLISH
3. Edward Hildreth: born 30 Apr 1831 in Townsend, Middlesex County, MA; married 25 Dec 1852 in Northborough, Worcester County, MA; died 26 Apr 1899 in Leominster, Worcester County, MA. ENGLISH
4. Sophia Newton: born 14 Sep 1834 in Springfield, Windsor County, VT; died 29 Aug 1923 in Leominster, Worcester County, MA. ENGLISH
5. James Richman\Richmond: born bef 8 Apr 1821 in Hilperton, Wiltshire, ENGLAND; married 7 Sep 1845 in Hilperton, Wiltshire, ENGLAND; died 20 Dec 1912 in Putnam, Windham County, CT. ENGLISH
6. Hannah Rich: born 14 Apr 1824 in Hilperton, Wiltshire, ENGLAND; died 7 Aug 1911 in Putnam, Windham County, CT. ENGLISH
7. Henry A. White: born 1824 in Glocester, Providence County, RI; married 30 Jun 1844 in Thompson, Windham County, CT, (VR); died 1 Aug 1885 in East Killingly, Windham County, CT. ENGLISH
8. Amy Frances Oatley: born 1826 in South Kingstown, Washington County, RI; died bef 1870 in Killingly, Windham County, CT. ENGLISH
9. David Jackson\D.J. Carringer: born 4 Nov 1828 in Greenville, Mercer County, PA; married 16 Oct 1851 in Mercer County, PA; died 20 Jan 1902 in San Diego, San Diego County, CA. GERMAN
10. Rebecca Spangler: born 2 Apr 1832 in Mercer County, PA; died 13 Dec 1901 in San Diego, San Diego County, CA. GERMAN
11. Devier James Lamphear Smith: born 7 May 1839 in Henderson, Jefferson County, NY; married 4 Apr 1861 in Rolling Prairie, Dodge County, WI; died 1 May 1894 in McCook, Red Willow County, NE. ENGLISH ?
12. Abigail A. Vaux: born 28 Oct 1844 in Aurora, Erie County, NY; died 11 Sep 1931 in San Diego, San Diego County, CA. ENGLISH
13. David Auble: born 1817 in Stillwater, Sussex County, NJ; married abt 1844 in Newton, Sussex County, NJ; died 22 Mar 1894 in Terre Haute, Vigo County, IN.
14. Sarah G. Knapp: born Jan 1818 in prob. Woodbridge, Middlesex County, NJ; died aft 1900 in prob. Bushnell, McDonough County, IL.
15. James Abram Kemp: born 22 May 1831 in prob. Hillier, Prince Edward County, Ontario, CANADA; married 10 Mar 1861 in Middleton, Norfolk County, ONTARIO; died 19 Sep 1902 in Delhi, Norfolk County, Ontario, CANADA. ENGLISH
16. Mary Jane Sovereen: born 29 Dec 1840 in prob. Delhi, Norfolk County, ONTARIO; died 20 May 1874 in Middleton, Norfolk County, ONTARIO, CANADA. GERMAN
As far as I can tell, my ethnicity is European (Y-DNA haplogroup is R, mtDNA haplogroup is H).
My "nationalities" are 13 ENGLISH (10 from early colonial New England) and 3 GERMAN - so 81% English, 19% German. Another generation back would add a Dutch line.
This was real easy to do once I made the ahnentafel list in RootsMagic 4. I saved it as an RTF file, and copied/pasted the 5th generation into the post above. Piece of cake!
One of the great things about writing a blog post like this is that now other searchers can find you on the Internet in a search engine.
UPDATED 11 p.m. - That smart blonde Sheri Fenley figured out that there are 16 great-great-grands not 16 great-grands like I originally posted. You know, it's easy to spell check but harder to content check! Sheri gets an A+ if she posts her 16 GGGP. Some of the bloggers posted their 16 GGGPs and noted the fact, my challenge notwithstanding.
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I'm going to cheat and not do the full 16 g-grandparent list. My ethnicity is European, 100% German to be exact. My husband's is European too, German and English aa far back as g-grandparents, more of a Heinz 57 variety mix further back...pretty much every European nationality.
Hope you can take a few days to recover from Grandpa Camp. Those little ones can wear a person out.
Hope you can take a few days to recover from Grandpa Camp. Those little ones can wear a person out.
I don't think you can create a list like this in Legacy, can you? I can create an Ancestry Report but it will only give me names and dates of birth and deaths, no marriages or locations (unless I'm doing something wrong).
It's a lot of work to put this report together by hand... Saturday night fun might turn into Sunday morning not so fun ;-)
It's a lot of work to put this report together by hand... Saturday night fun might turn into Sunday morning not so fun ;-)
I did mine and have 8 from Scotland, 7 from England and 1 from France! I usually miss Sat nite fun but since you posted early I got to read it before Sunday morning !
Randy, another fun challenge. Here's my blog post on my 16 Great Greats... http://www.geneamusings.com/2009/08/saturday-night-genealogy-fun-your-16.html
I am pretty much French, French and more French with some Aboriginal in the mix. My family was actually the first "family" of Canada and have been documented as such, put on Canadian postage and have statues erected in their honor as being such.
Here is my post:
http://storiesofmyancestors.blogspot.com/2009/08/saturday-night-genealogy-challenge.html
Here is my post:
http://storiesofmyancestors.blogspot.com/2009/08/saturday-night-genealogy-challenge.html
I was going to do this, but then I realized that I have no clue how to make that happen in FTM. I just spent almost two hours on it! LOL Tomorrow is another day Scarlet...Oh, wait, tomorrow is now TODAY. I'll get 'er done, but much later today. Time for bed since it's 1:30 AM PDT.
I have a lot of work to do. My report is full of question marks. You can read my post here and if you have ideas on what I should do next leave me a comment.
Great fun, Randy!
Great fun, Randy!
My Saturday night fun is usually Sunday morning fun since that is when I receive my Genea-Musings. Here are my results.
1. Giovanni Battista Furlani, born in 1834 in Vigolo Vattaro, Trento, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy. TYROLEAN
2. Catterina Dominica Marchi, born in Vigolo Vattaro, Trento, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy. TYROLEAN
3. Valentino Dallabrida, born in 1830 in Vigolo Vattaro, Trento, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy. TYROLEAN
4. Dominica Filomena Martinelli Dallabrida, born in 1830 in Vigolo Vattaro, Trento, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy. TYROLEAN
5. Unknown GGGF BIANCHI, born in Italy. ITALIAN
6. Unknown GGGM BIANCHI, born in Italy. ITALIAN
7. Lawrence Bunt, born in Bohemia. BOHEMIAN
8. Unknown GGGM Bunt, born in Bohemia. BOHEMIAN
9. Edward Noble, born in 1826 in Ireland; died before 1880 in Mount Carmel, Northumberland, Pennsylvania, USA. IRISH
10. Mary Devine, born in 1831 in Ireland; died before 1910 in Mount Carmel, Northumberland, Pennsylvania, USA. IRISH
11. Christopher McGinn, born in 1830 in Ireland. IRISH
12. Ann McGinn, born in 1837 in Ireland. IRISH
13. Unknown GGGF Gunther, born in Germany. GERMAN
14. Unknown GGGM Gunther, born in Germany. GERMAN
15. Theobald C. Meisberger, born on 25 Dec 1837 in Germany/Prussia; died on 13 Jun 1900 in Shamokin, Northumberland, Pennsylvania, USA. GERMAN
16. Maria Catherina Strausser, born 29 Dec 1842 in Pennsylvania, USA; died 25 Sep 1897 in Shamokin, Northumberland, Pennsylvania, USA. GERMAN
My “nationalities" are: 4 Tyrolean = 25%, 2 Italian = 12.5%, 2 Bohemian = 12.5%, 4 Irish = 25%, 4 German = 25%.
Great exercise. I now have a report that emphasizes my "brick walls." Lots of work to do.
1. Giovanni Battista Furlani, born in 1834 in Vigolo Vattaro, Trento, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy. TYROLEAN
2. Catterina Dominica Marchi, born in Vigolo Vattaro, Trento, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy. TYROLEAN
3. Valentino Dallabrida, born in 1830 in Vigolo Vattaro, Trento, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy. TYROLEAN
4. Dominica Filomena Martinelli Dallabrida, born in 1830 in Vigolo Vattaro, Trento, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy. TYROLEAN
5. Unknown GGGF BIANCHI, born in Italy. ITALIAN
6. Unknown GGGM BIANCHI, born in Italy. ITALIAN
7. Lawrence Bunt, born in Bohemia. BOHEMIAN
8. Unknown GGGM Bunt, born in Bohemia. BOHEMIAN
9. Edward Noble, born in 1826 in Ireland; died before 1880 in Mount Carmel, Northumberland, Pennsylvania, USA. IRISH
10. Mary Devine, born in 1831 in Ireland; died before 1910 in Mount Carmel, Northumberland, Pennsylvania, USA. IRISH
11. Christopher McGinn, born in 1830 in Ireland. IRISH
12. Ann McGinn, born in 1837 in Ireland. IRISH
13. Unknown GGGF Gunther, born in Germany. GERMAN
14. Unknown GGGM Gunther, born in Germany. GERMAN
15. Theobald C. Meisberger, born on 25 Dec 1837 in Germany/Prussia; died on 13 Jun 1900 in Shamokin, Northumberland, Pennsylvania, USA. GERMAN
16. Maria Catherina Strausser, born 29 Dec 1842 in Pennsylvania, USA; died 25 Sep 1897 in Shamokin, Northumberland, Pennsylvania, USA. GERMAN
My “nationalities" are: 4 Tyrolean = 25%, 2 Italian = 12.5%, 2 Bohemian = 12.5%, 4 Irish = 25%, 4 German = 25%.
Great exercise. I now have a report that emphasizes my "brick walls." Lots of work to do.
Greetings Randy,
Excellent idea for SNGF! It was a breeze to do in Legacy. I'm glad to now have my 16 great-great-grands posted on my blog.
Kathryn
Excellent idea for SNGF! It was a breeze to do in Legacy. I'm glad to now have my 16 great-great-grands posted on my blog.
Kathryn
This was fun. It points out again that I need to find those Jones ancestors! That was one of my 2009 goals. Better get to it!
Posted mine on my blog, www.marysfamilytree.blogspot.com.
Posted mine on my blog, www.marysfamilytree.blogspot.com.
Thanks for the topic, Randy. I had fun finding the info for this post. My post is at http://tinashopesanddreams.blogspot.com/2009/08/my-16-great-great-grandparents.html
Well, this exercise certainly pointed out where the big holes are in my research up to this point. My SNGF is posted at http://gretabog.blogspot.com/2009/08/14-of-my-16-greats.html. I think most of my great-greats have mixed ethnicity, but I would estimate that 5-10 percent is "other" (Welsh, German/Dutch, possibly French), and the other 90-95 percent is almost evenly divided between Scots-Irish and English, with perhaps a slight advantage to the Scots-Irish.
Not sure why my link didn't show below, but here's mine from Saturday night:
http://familyhistorian.blogspot.com/2009/08/sngf-16-great-grandparents.html
http://familyhistorian.blogspot.com/2009/08/sngf-16-great-grandparents.html
A little late but I enjoyed this exercise, I learned something in RM4!
http://familyknitnspindles.blogspot.com/2009/08/saturday-night-fun-august-8-2009.html
http://familyknitnspindles.blogspot.com/2009/08/saturday-night-fun-august-8-2009.html
Here is mine (sorry that the text is in Polish):
http://blog.mrog.org/363/szesnastu-wspanialych-prapradziadkow
http://blog.mrog.org/363/szesnastu-wspanialych-prapradziadkow
Hi Randy
What a great idea! I don't have one set of great great grandparents so I did the Eight of the Greats.
EIGHT OF THE GREAT
These are my great grandparents… on a Wednesday morning:
1. Charles Daniel Fermazin was born on Nov 14, 1859 in Rynarzewo, Posen, Prussia and died on June 13, 1913 in Aurora, Illinois. On August 16, 1885 he married:
2. Wilhelmine Pluecker was born on June 6, 1868 in Aurora, Illinois and died Apr 17, 1952 in Aurora, Illinois.
3. Mathias Linden was born on March 27, 1854 in Waldbillig, Luxembourg and died on June 3, 1909 in Aurora, Illinois. On January 4, 1882 he married:
4. Catherina Pott (Pootz) was born on March 2, 1853 in Lipperscheid, Luxembourg and died on Feb 8 1917 in Aurora, Illinois.
5. Richard Seth Worthing was born on April 15, 1819 in Llananno, Radnorshire,Wales and died on December 18, 1907 in Truro, Madison, Iowa. On Oct 1, 1842 he married:
6. Sarah Ingram who was born on Nov 29, 1821 in Llwynbeddw Mill, Llannano Radnorshire Wales.
7. Ira Daniel Ames was born on July 4, 1842 in Liberty Township, Mc Kean, Pennsylvania and died on Sept 21, 1895 in Albion, Dane, Wisconsin. On June 25, 1868 he married:
8. Cornelia A. Palon was born on April 9, 1847 in Albion, Dane, Wisconsin and died on March 7, 1893 in Lake Koshkonong, Jefferson, Wisconsin.
What a great idea! I don't have one set of great great grandparents so I did the Eight of the Greats.
EIGHT OF THE GREAT
These are my great grandparents… on a Wednesday morning:
1. Charles Daniel Fermazin was born on Nov 14, 1859 in Rynarzewo, Posen, Prussia and died on June 13, 1913 in Aurora, Illinois. On August 16, 1885 he married:
2. Wilhelmine Pluecker was born on June 6, 1868 in Aurora, Illinois and died Apr 17, 1952 in Aurora, Illinois.
3. Mathias Linden was born on March 27, 1854 in Waldbillig, Luxembourg and died on June 3, 1909 in Aurora, Illinois. On January 4, 1882 he married:
4. Catherina Pott (Pootz) was born on March 2, 1853 in Lipperscheid, Luxembourg and died on Feb 8 1917 in Aurora, Illinois.
5. Richard Seth Worthing was born on April 15, 1819 in Llananno, Radnorshire,Wales and died on December 18, 1907 in Truro, Madison, Iowa. On Oct 1, 1842 he married:
6. Sarah Ingram who was born on Nov 29, 1821 in Llwynbeddw Mill, Llannano Radnorshire Wales.
7. Ira Daniel Ames was born on July 4, 1842 in Liberty Township, Mc Kean, Pennsylvania and died on Sept 21, 1895 in Albion, Dane, Wisconsin. On June 25, 1868 he married:
8. Cornelia A. Palon was born on April 9, 1847 in Albion, Dane, Wisconsin and died on March 7, 1893 in Lake Koshkonong, Jefferson, Wisconsin.
Based on Randy's calculation methods my ethnicity is 37.5% English and 62.5% Irish.
I wonder though how it is that even if our family members have been in Canada (or the United States) for several generations, we still determine our ethnicity on the distant ancestors that first immigrated to our countries. It would seem to me that my ethnicity based on my 16 great, great grandparents is actually 50% Canadian, 25% Irish, and 25% English.I am proud to have deep roots in Canada and I am proud to call myself a Canadian Canadian versus Irish Canadian or . . .
I wonder though how it is that even if our family members have been in Canada (or the United States) for several generations, we still determine our ethnicity on the distant ancestors that first immigrated to our countries. It would seem to me that my ethnicity based on my 16 great, great grandparents is actually 50% Canadian, 25% Irish, and 25% English.I am proud to have deep roots in Canada and I am proud to call myself a Canadian Canadian versus Irish Canadian or . . .
Linda Hurtubise - I was intriged by the same thing - some of the lists I looked at showed ancestry in Massachusetts for a number of generations, yet the writer claimed "English" ethnicity for those ancestors.
A+ A+ A+ A+
Hey Seaver, I posted them all over at The Educated Genealogist -
www.sherifenley.blogspot.com
I'll take that "A+" and hang it proudly on my wall!
Hey Seaver, I posted them all over at The Educated Genealogist -
www.sherifenley.blogspot.com
I'll take that "A+" and hang it proudly on my wall!
This is a great idea! I am a bit late to jump on the bandwagon and I found you via a Twitter post (http://twitter.com/h_vk/status/3302006897), but at least I made it! Here are my sweet 16: http://tinyurl.com/neqf5x
I did this and found that all of my 16 GG Grandparents were born in North America. You can read the post where I wrote about it on my blog:
http://mcatee.biz/blog/?p=405
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